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10-19-2011
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CPU Cooling Question If I am going to spend $60-$80 for a CPU cooling solution, are there any reasons to use anything other than a liquid cooling solution?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 CPU AMD 9850 X4 Motherboard ASUS Memory Corsair Graphics Card ATI Radeon Sound Card Sigmatel Monitor(s) Displays Dell Screen Resolution 1600X900 Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives (1) WD 1TB Internet Speed UVerse 12MB |
10-19-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Yes.
Leaks leading to destruction of other components.
If your overclocking plans are such that you KNOW air cooling won't be enough, then by all means use liquid.
But I don't know how you would know that without experimentation.
For all I know, you have no intention of overclocking. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
10-19-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by oneextraid If I am going to spend $60-$80 for a CPU cooling solution, are there any reasons to use anything other than a liquid cooling solution? Without a doubt, liquid cooling solutions are far more complex, often take more space due to radiators, and have potential for leaks. I've never even considered going liquid cooling. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
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Do you know what the failure rate is for liquid cooling?
I have read and have experience, with one solution I am using, that liquid provides best cooling even if not OCed.
If heat kills then liquid seems to give the best life expectancy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 CPU AMD 9850 X4 Motherboard ASUS Memory Corsair Graphics Card ATI Radeon Sound Card Sigmatel Monitor(s) Displays Dell Screen Resolution 1600X900 Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives (1) WD 1TB Internet Speed UVerse 12MB |
10-19-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
the corsair range of liquid coolers Cheap Laptops, Computers and Cheap LCD TVs | Ebuyer.com
are maintenance free and full garenteed. for the money you pay for one of them youd be silly to chose a passive cooler.
id personally go for the twin 120mm rad, but its obviously the more expensive of the range | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
10-19-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by oneextraid I have read and have experience, with one solution I am using, that liquid provides best cooling even if not OCed. Correct, liquid cooling can cool better than air. 
Quote: Originally Posted by oneextraid If heat kills then liquid seems to give the best life expectancy. Excessive heat kills equipment. Higher levels of heat, as long as they are within spec, might only have a very small impact on expected life.
For example, if you run a machine 24x7x365...(and difference between heat is 52C at load versus 65C at load between liquid and air)it's possible with air that it might run for 6 years and 5 days. With liquid cooling, it might run for 6 years and 9 days. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10-19-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by oneextraid I have read and have experience, with one solution I am using, that liquid provides best cooling even if not OCed.
If heat kills then liquid seems to give the best life expectancy. Suppose an air cooler leads to average temperatures of 38 Celsius.
Suppose liquid cooling leads to average temperatures of 18 Celsius or lower.
What conclusions do you draw from that?
If you are just a hobbyist playing with components, then go ahead with liquid or whatever else you can conjure up.
If, on the other hand, you are trying to keep uptime and reliability to a maximum, then you would be escorted to the state line for considering liquid. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
10-19-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Suppose an air cooler leads to average temperatures of 38 Celsius.
Suppose liquid cooling leads to average temperatures of 18 Celsius or lower.
What conclusions do you draw from that? I'd conclude that the system with a liquid cooler is running in a rather cold room. (Water coolers don't go below ambient - that would require a phase change or thermoelectric cooler.) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
10-19-2011
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Ignatz,
Then I assume you always use the stock heatsink if temp doesn't matter?
Why are you against liquid? Have you had bad experience? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 CPU AMD 9850 X4 Motherboard ASUS Memory Corsair Graphics Card ATI Radeon Sound Card Sigmatel Monitor(s) Displays Dell Screen Resolution 1600X900 Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives (1) WD 1TB Internet Speed UVerse 12MB |
10-19-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
the range i suggested are the best of both worlds, the power of water cooling, but with the simplicity of all in one. you dont have a mish mash of pipes and pumps, and as its factory assembled chances of a problem are very low.
plus i see it as far less stress on the mobo, without having a massive pile of metal and plastic hanging off it | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
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