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Windows 7: I have power but no POST I've run out of options

21 Oct 2011   #21

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My primary concern about asus is aftermarket support.
My board was just over a year old when win 7 was released. Asus never released a single windows 7 driver for it.
Fortunately I finally tracked them all down, and now they are mostly hosted by the update server even.
But ASUS and toshiba have been been big upsets in that department. After about a year support drops off to practically nothing.

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21 Oct 2011   #22

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Comp Cmndo View Post
Your motherboard (ASUS Crosshair Formula/Thunderbolt) has a number of onboard LED's (see manual Sect 2.2.6)

It has a set of LED's that indicate the voltage conditions of CPU, memory, northbridge and southbridge. The manual says there are 3 states to each LED: Crazy, High, Normal. (Something got lost in the translation from the Chinese).

There is a GO LED for the RAM, a Q-LED, & more.

Have you checked the status of all these LED's? You said you checked the status of the Q-LED, but what about the others?

You said: "...Cleared CMOS (by pressing the CLRCMOS button at the rear of the M/B) and then rebooted the system."
The manual does not indicate that this button exists.

Try removing the CMOS battery & then shorting the pins. Shorting the pins with the battery installed usually does nothing. I think the manual is missing this step.

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS Crosshair V Formula/ThunderBolt
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You said: "...Cleared CMOS (by pressing the CLRCMOS button at the rear of the M/B) and then rebooted the system."
The manual does not indicate that this button exists.
Oh but it does, look on page 2-46 subsection 2.3.12 Rear Panel Connections and (6) is CLR CMOS Switch... If you look At the attached image I have put an arrow to the CLR CMOS Switch, I've never been a great fan of shorting the pins and it's something that I would not recommend in doing so.

I've spoken to ASUS and they have advised the cause of the problem is with the BIOS which is what I initially thought late last night. Because the CPU is missing from the supported CPU list it will not boot or POST. the board has power and all HDD'S and DVD burners and GFX soundcard have power and so does the CPU and all fans connected to the chassis. What really hacks me of is that ASUS state this board supports the new generation of AMD AM3+ CPU's. and it's support FX CPU's which is blo**y obvious they botched this up because they have released a new BIOS with a new list of supported CPU's and my CPU is within the list. until I update the BIOS I have no chance in getting this to work.

So what I'm planning on doing, and this is a bit cheeky, cold calling... Let me explain cold calling just in case you are not familiar witch the term Cold Calling. No offense mind, I'm just explaining. Cold Calling is just calling an organisation and coldly asking if I can bring my rig to their shop and borrow an AMD AM3 CPU any one will do Phenom II/Athlon II/Sempron 100 Series Processors so I can boot the rig (that if the board will boot that is, i personally think it will boot) and then update the BIOS and then reinstall my CPU and see what happens. If the system does not boot or POST then I know for sure the M/B is toast.

With regards to the PSU, and I'm not disregarding the fact there is a potential possibility that the cause of the problem is being caused by the PSU, I am not. I've spoken to Enermax today and they have stated, that the PSU I have at the moment is more than enough power for the motherboard and the CPU and there shouldn't be a problem. they run the same PSU calculations as I have done and we have both come out with the dame results. between 750W and 850W with a Peak Power of 956W.


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21 Oct 2011   #23

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Just for the record this is my second striker board, the first one died, it took me two months to convince them the board was dead and not the graphics card.
Though it does seem that in your case they are actually admitting they may be at fault.
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21 Oct 2011   #24

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Comp Cmndo View Post
I suppose you should be glad you don't have this Asus motherboard:
Newegg.com - ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

I don't know what's happened to Asus in recent Times. I have an old Asus P3 motherboard which has worked faithfully for 10 years.
I nearly did...

I read some customer reviews and I agree I don't know where ASUS are going either. To release a board which clearly does not support the next generation of CPU's to me is an insult as a long standing customer of 12 years. Quite frankly, I think it's a f***ing disgrace. I haven't got an AMD AM3 CPU that I can use to update the BIOS, I've been Intel though and through for 14 years now and I got to the point where Intel was just taking the p*** with their prices and the fact that within these 14 years I've been through, 3 Intel CPU's.

That's why I moved in the first place. although, I'm now wishing I didn't because I have put out nearly 500.00 along with new memory...
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21 Oct 2011   #25

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bink View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Comp Cmndo View Post
I suppose you should be glad you don't have this Asus motherboard:
Newegg.com - ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

I don't know what's happened to Asus in recent Times. I have an old Asus P3 motherboard which has worked faithfully for 10 years.
I nearly did...

I read some customer reviews and I agree I don't know where ASUS are going either. To release a board which clearly does not support the next generation of CPU's to me is an insult as a long standing customer of 12 years. Quite frankly, I think it's a f***ing disgrace. I haven't got an AMD AM3 CPU that I can use to update the BIOS, I've been Intel though and through for 14 years now and I got to the point where Intel was just taking the p*** with their prices and the fact that within these 14 years I've been through, 3 Intel CPU's.

That's why I moved in the first place. although, I'm now wishing I didn't because I have put out nearly 500.00 along with new memory...
It does seem that in this slumping economy as if to add insult to injury many companies that computer geeks, and casual users alike have been loyal to for many years are starting to turn their backs on us by releasing shoddy or half finished products.
Computer Gamers made Id but if you look at rage, they released something that was practically unplayable on pc without hours of tweaking and custom settings with even the best of hardware.
They later commented on this with a little snippet on ign talking about how they now consider pc a nonentity in the gaming market.

...backstabbers.
Been loyal to them since the original doom was released.
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22 Oct 2011   #26

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I'm now going on the notion that, there must be I viable connection here with the PSU. if once instilled there is still a problem with no boot, no post... then we then know for sure its either the motherboard at fault or the processor. although, I cannot stop thinking the fact, that ASUS have released a BIOS patch with the support of the FX Series of processors. now I checked the same list last night and the FX Series wasn't in the list but it is now...? ASUS clearly states that in the manual and on their website this board support the FX Series.

I'm a little undecided on PSU's I'm a fussy shopper when it comes to power supply. I've always used Enermax because they are whisper quiet and the cable management is just outstanding. I've just run a PSU calculation and it suggests again because I missed out a few things the last time round and then recommended PSU is between 1010W - 1050W which does sound rather a lot. I've had in the back of my mind since I started this thread; that the PSU could potentially be the culprit of all this with insufficient power causing the failed post. I've had countless other members stating the PSU and I've been blinded with blinkers, and being stubborn, because ENERMAX PSU's are stable, reliable and have a good reputation, also considering they are not cheep and how much I paid for this in the first place. Okay it's 2009 technology and this PSU is now discontinued which was quite a shock.

So... PSU I might do a complete "U turn" and go for another make... Cougar have some reviews promising reviews. Sorry but you have to laugh, at the make "Cougar" oh she's a powerful, she'll blow you mind. So I need 1010W - 1050W and I'm hoping this will resolve the problem... if not then we know for sure this is being caused by either the BIOS or the board is... fudged.

I have ordered an awesome PSU from Ebuyer this afternoon, what was even more awesome was they were taking orders on a Sunday, even better, I had 1hr :45min left for this to be collected and delivered tomorrow. Now that's dedication and commitment for you. The PSU is being delivered tomorrow. In fact it will be here in 10 hours time, I have read some other customers with even worse problems than what I've been experiencing. One guy said that he had to use both the 8-Pin and 4-Pin to get the system to Post. Now, from experience...

The only time that you would need to use both the 8 and 4-Pin would be in a situation where you needed extra juice because of extreme overclocking. But not for standard configuration. Something is not right here. which could indicate that theirs an issue with the 990FX chipset...? I must admit, this is a new one on me I've never know standard config without OC having to use both CPU power connections, just doesn't make any sense does it. well PSU will be here tomorrow and lets see what happens with a new and improved PSU. if I still get the same problem with the new PSU then we know for sure the cause of the problem.
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23 Oct 2011   #27

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Unless I missed it, have you even tried a different power supply yet? If not and you're haing the same problems after replacing everything else, that would be the next thing to try before going any further.
I didn't have another one to test with.

but I will tomorrow as one is being delivered and I shall try it in and out of the chassis with the new PSU.

Fingers crossed.
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23 Oct 2011   #28

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Perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying, but if it has an 8 pin ATX CPU power connection, use the 2 4 pin or an 8 pin to connect.
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