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Windows 7: Slow SSD Boot with long OtherKernelInitDuration delay

22 Oct 2011   #31
Raillex

Windows 7 Home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I don't recall, but have you run sfc /scannow? It is a system file checker and will verify and attempt to correct system files.
Yes, last night. No help there, either.

I wonder what part of the OS waits approximately 23 seconds for a device to respond before deciding it isn't there and allowing the boot to continue. It's almost as if the OS expects something to be there and is programmed to wait a set amount of time before concluding it isn't.


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22 Oct 2011   #32
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Do you happen to have a solid color desktop (background)? .... Grasping here.
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22 Oct 2011   #33
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Almost all motherboard manufacturers will tell you it is your fault, there is nothing wrong with their board. If you have 2 sata controllers in bios, disable the one you are not using. your board has 4 6GB/s controllers. 2 ports blue and 2 ports grey. That usually indicates they are on different controllers. The second is usually an add on. My board has 2 marvell controllers and takes an extra 5 seconds boot time if enabled.

On a more unpleasant note, in the time you have been trying to figure this out you could have done a clean install. Download the latest drivers from Asus, and all updates and see how it runs clean. Then add 1 program at a time, testing in between. That way you should find out which program or driver is causing the delay. Do the same in BIOS, start with optimized defaults and change 1 thing at a time to find out if any setting is causing problems. Just a suggestion, but we are running out of options. Do the install with no other hard drive connected except the SSD.
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22 Oct 2011   #34
Raillex

Windows 7 Home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Almost all motherboard manufacturers will tell you it is your fault, there is nothing wrong with their board. If you have 2 sata controllers in bios, disable the one you are not using. your board has 4 6GB/s controllers. 2 ports blue and 2 ports grey. That usually indicates they are on different controllers. The second is usually an add on. My board has 2 marvell controllers and takes an extra 5 seconds boot time if enabled.

On a more unpleasant note, in the time you have been trying to figure this out you could have done a clean install. Download the latest drivers from Asus, and all updates and see how it runs clean. Then add 1 program at a time, testing in between. That way you should find out which program or driver is causing the delay. Do the same in BIOS, start with optimized defaults and change 1 thing at a time to find out if any setting is causing problems. Just a suggestion, but we are running out of options. Do the install with no other hard drive connected except the SSD.
I disabled the Marvell 6GB/s controller before I installed the OS, and I've never enabled it since.

Carwiz, I've been using a desktop background from day one.

I'll need to think about how badly I really need those extra 23 second boot savings before I decide to do another fresh install. The decision wouldn't be so hard had I not just done one last weekend.
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22 Oct 2011   #35
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

But is it a solid color?
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22 Oct 2011   #36
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

I apologize if I've missed it in the previous pages, but that particular function call is called during boot PnP init, and it measures the time from the very first diag event after the boot process starts until you see smss.exe startup - at this point, I would strongly suggest getting a boot trace so we can actually see what's happening when you box boots:
Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace
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22 Oct 2011   #37
Raillex

Windows 7 Home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
But is it a solid color?
No.


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22 Oct 2011   #38
Raillex

Windows 7 Home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
I apologize if I've missed it in the previous pages, but that particular function call is called during boot PnP init, and it measures the time from the very first diag event after the boot process starts until you see smss.exe startup - at this point, I would strongly suggest getting a boot trace so we can actually see what's happening when you box boots:
Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace
BSOD, even when trying to boot into safe mode. Lucky I imaged my C Drive last night.

I'll try it again without the "+ Drivers."
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22 Oct 2011   #39
Raillex

Windows 7 Home 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
I apologize if I've missed it in the previous pages, but that particular function call is called during boot PnP init, and it measures the time from the very first diag event after the boot process starts until you see smss.exe startup - at this point, I would strongly suggest getting a boot trace so we can actually see what's happening when you box boots:
Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace
OK, I ran it, but the file it created is 320MB in size.

Do you need anything more than these screen captures?

Edit: Rapidshare link:

https://***************/files/2304353...REGISTRY_1.etl


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23 Oct 2011   #40
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Well, that was very interesting. Ultimately, it appears there are an inordinate number of calls into HalpProfileInterrupt, which is responsible for interrupt dispatching (I do see a fairly consistent rise in, and consistent pattern of, DPC interrupts during this particular wait time). In looking closely at the summary table of these, I can see that we're in hal.dll (in the HalpProfileInterrupt routine), ACPI.sys (in the ACPIInterruptServiceRoutine), and ultimately into iastor.sys (at some function at offset 0xfffff880010759b0 - since we have no Intel symbols, I can't go further than that). Once whatever it is that we're parsing interrupts into the Intel storage driver for (you can see in the generic marks that all of the sudden the OS picks up again when this stops), you boot quite fast at that point.

I hate to say it, but either there's a problem with the Intel storage driver, or you have a configuration or hardware problem with the disk subsystem.
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