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Windows 7 - Slow SSD Boot with long OtherKernelInitDuration delay |
10-20-2011
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Slow SSD Boot with long OtherKernelInitDuration delay I built my first SSD based PC last week and was blown away by how fast it booted into Windows. After a few days, however, my boot times became noticeably slower, rising from around 18 seconds to 42 seconds according to Windows Diagnostics-Performance logs. On further inspection, I discovered that most of the extra delay is associated with an event called "OtherKernelInitDuration," which rose from under a second to around 23 seconds.
Any suggestions as to what may be causing this? I've tried just about every solution I could find on the net for fixing slow SSD boots (making sure the desktop has wallpaper, enabling EHCI handoff in bios, unplugging my DVD burner, running a Windows repair, turning off unused peripherals in bios, etc.) and am getting frustrated.
BTW, my Crucial SSD has the latest firmware and scored a 7.9 on the Windows experience index.
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home 64bit CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Memory 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 RAM Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE276Q PSU CORSAIR HX850 PSU Case LIAN LI PC-K9B Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 SSD /
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX |
10-20-2011
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Have you followed the guide on this website regarding disabling page file, super fetch, prefetch and so forth.
I've ran three different types of SSDs...from Intel to OCZ SATA 2 to my more recent OCZ SATA3. I haven't once experienced any delayed boot times spanning multiple Windows 7 installs.
It's possible the issue could be related to mobo / controller issues. I would highly recommend contact the HDD manufacturer to ensure there isn't a hardware issue that might require patching in a future firmware update | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Memory 16Gb DDR3-1600 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Extreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays (2) 22" LG WideScreens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU Antec TruPower 750W Hard Drives (1) OCZ Force3 240GB SSD
(1) 2Tb SATA3 Drive Internet Speed 50Mbps |
10-20-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I have 2 Crucial M4's and have experienced no problems with them. Is your sata controller in ahci mode? Firmware 0009 is out now, maybe that would help. Check your alignment and make sure trim is enabled. If you need help in doing that, let us know.
For trim in an elevated command prompt, type/copy-paste fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify if it returns fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify=0 then trim is enabled.
To check alignment in an elevated command prompt type diskpart (press enter) type list disk (press enter) type select disk # (where # is the number of your SSD) then type list partition. you will get a screen that lists the partition size and the offset. The offset is alignment. Mine is 1024 it looks like this.
You may also want to run sfc /scannow from an elevated command prompt to check system files. The scan now tutorial. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
10-20-2011
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If you added a TV card, that will do it. Mine went from about 18 seconds to about 42 seconds after adding a Hauppage card. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
10-20-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz If you added a TV card, that will do it. Mine went from about 18 seconds to about 42 seconds after adding a Hauppage card. Mine also. I have two HVR 2250's.
Any mapped drives will also increase the boot time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Made OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i7 3820 LGA 2011 Motherboard Gigabyte GA X79 UD5 v1.0 F12 Memory 16 GB (4 X 4GB) G-Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2133 Quad Channel Graphics Card EVGA GTX 460 SC 1GB Sound Card Realtek Onboard ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung BX2431 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Explorer Mouse PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling INTEL BXRTS2011LC Liquid-cooled Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5 in. SSD FW 2.22
WD 750AALS SATA
2xWD 640AAKS SATA
5xWD 750AALS SATA Internet Speed 6.0 Mb/s |
10-21-2011
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I used somebody else's guide, but yes, I did disable prefetch, superfetch and the rest. I also ran a Google search on OtherKernelInitDuration, and no help there, either. The Google search did show that folks experiencing boot delay have OtherKernelInitDuration times below five seconds, which is why I am getting frustrated
Last edited by Raillex; 10-21-2011 at 03:19 AM..
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home 64bit CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Memory 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 RAM Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE276Q PSU CORSAIR HX850 PSU Case LIAN LI PC-K9B Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 SSD /
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX |
10-21-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz If you added a TV card, that will do it. Mine went from about 18 seconds to about 42 seconds after adding a Hauppage card. No TV card here. I do have a D-Link Wifi card in the first PCIE slot, a Radeon 6870 in the PCIEX16 slot right below it, and a Microsoft USB mouse/keyboard transmitter in one of the USB ports. My Windows experience score is still 7.9, and my DiskMark64 scores are like 520MB/s sequential read, 200MB/s sequential write, so it seems the SSD is working just fine once I boot into Windows. It's the boot lag that's not right.
Anyone know what OtherKernelInitDuratiion is supposed to signify, anyway? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home 64bit CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Memory 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 RAM Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE276Q PSU CORSAIR HX850 PSU Case LIAN LI PC-K9B Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 SSD /
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX |
10-21-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe I have 2 Crucial M4's and have experienced no problems with them. Is your sata controller in ahci mode? Firmware 0009 is out now, maybe that would help. Check your alignment and make sure trim is enabled. If you need help in doing that, let us know.
For trim in an elevated command prompt, type/copy-paste fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify if it returns fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify=0 then trim is enabled.
To check alignment in an elevated command prompt type diskpart (press enter) type list disk (press enter) type select disk # (where # is the number of your SSD) then type list partition. you will get a screen that lists the partition size and the offset. The offset is alignment. Mine is 1024 it looks like this. Attachment 180128
You may also want to run sfc /scannow from an elevated command prompt to check system files. The scan now tutorial. The firmware is 0009, trim is enabled, alignment is 1024, and I'm in AHCI mode. I did a repair install and an error check through Windows, and couldn't find anything wrong. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home 64bit CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Memory 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 RAM Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE276Q PSU CORSAIR HX850 PSU Case LIAN LI PC-K9B Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 SSD /
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX |
10-21-2011
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About all I can say is post a list of your processes and services and we'll have a look. Do you use any special Group Policies? How many users do you have defined? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
10-22-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz About all I can say is post a list of your processes and services and we'll have a look. Do you use any special Group Policies? How many users do you have defined? I don't have any group policies (I don't think I even can with Windows 7 Home Premum) and there is only one user account.
How do I go about copying my processes and services and posting them? When I try to export the entries, I end up with unformatted text files that are basically unreadable.
In the meantime, here is my diagnostics performance event log. - EventData BootTsVersion 2 BootStartTime 2011-10-22T15:16:04.624800200Z BootEndTime 2011-10-22T15:18:04.743659000Z SystemBootInstance 68 UserBootInstance 62 BootTime 42087 MainPathBootTime 29587 BootKernelInitTime 15 BootDriverInitTime 227 BootDevicesInitTime 1201 BootPrefetchInitTime 0 BootPrefetchBytes 0 BootAutoChkTime 0 BootSmssInitTime 3418 BootCriticalServicesInitTime 259 BootUserProfileProcessingTime 793 BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 0 BootExplorerInitTime 886 BootNumStartupApps 11 BootPostBootTime 12500 BootIsRebootAfterInstall false BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits
0 BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0 BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0 BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0 BootIsDegradation false BootIsStepDegradation false BootIsGradualDegradation false BootImprovementDelta 0 BootDegradationDelta 0 BootIsRootCauseIdentified false OSLoaderDuration 556 BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 15 BootPNPInitDuration 1223 OtherKernelInitDuration 22589 SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 23808 SystemPNPInitDuration 205 SessionInitStartTimeMS 24019 Session0InitDuration 2865 Session1InitDuration 206 SessionInitOtherDuration 345 WinLogonStartTimeMS 27437 OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 470 UserLogonWaitDuration 159
Last edited by Raillex; 10-27-2011 at 12:41 AM..
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home 64bit CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Memory 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 RAM Graphics Card MSI Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE276Q PSU CORSAIR HX850 PSU Case LIAN LI PC-K9B Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX Hard Drives Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 SSD /
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