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Windows 7: The time has come (update opinions)

29 Oct 2011   #21
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Yeah I'll have a little time to fine tune the order.
Instead of ordering right away I'm going to wait until end of November and catch holiday sales and have a bit more to spend.

...unless I just cave because I get sick of having this older computer as my primary right now.
If you are going to buy an SSD anyway, buy it now for your older computer. It will help it "last longer", if you know what I mean.


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29 Oct 2011   #22
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Am also now looking at this possible mobo/cpu combo.
Newegg.com - MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT75TFBGRBOX

it's also significantly less expensive. Maybe enough so for me to sneak a ssd into the order.
If you want to go AMD, this would be my favorite. I am not sure what 6core or 8core will buy you in real life (except in video editing). But if it is not this one, it should be an Fx series (Bulldozer) in any case.

And I think an SSD for the OS is a must. Even the most modest 60GB unit will do wonders. This is a good one: Newegg.com - Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit
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29 Oct 2011   #23
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

The reason I was looking at a 128 was os + maybe 20-35 gigs worth of games. The commonly played ones that I would really notice were loading better.
and while I could do it on a 64 probably, I like the buffer of safe zone with the 128.

It's the main reason I've never looked at an ssd until now, the price is just starting to get within some kind of reason.
We burn through storage so much on modern machines though. Will be sticking to my mechanicals on the large file storage for the time being still. A 1tb ssd is still priced way out of reach.

Plus new build will have enough RAM to just disable the pagefile altogether. I'll be noticing a significant difference regardless.

edit: P.S. this machine I'm calling old is a fx-60 amd rig, bought when the fx-60 was the top chip on the market.
While it was one of the first real dual cores on the market, now it's just junk attached to standard ddr.
I tolerate it because it still has a good 8800gtx in it. Which is a hot power hungry card but it still manages pretty well. Even plays battlefield 3, though not as well as my 5850 AA is a noticeable issue on the 8800gtx, it's not on the 5850.
Anyhow, thanks for the suggestions all.
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29 Oct 2011   #24
henryeight

Windows7 home premium 32-bit
 
 

I'm somewhat surprised you get through MBO in a couple of years (yr earlier post) . . . are the failure modes anything like similar?
High temperatures, vibration and electrical interference are good reasons. . . . IMHO.
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29 Oct 2011   #25
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

it's only been with the striker boards as in my specs (not the computer I'm currently on because mobo is tanked)
The motherboard in this thing I've had for a long time.
Pretty much same conditions of use.
I think the striker extreme boards are just jinky.
Asus never even released win 7 drivers associated with the board on their site.
Had to update the bios just so the 5850 would even work on it.
Seemed like a great board early on but they apparently just don't last.
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29 Oct 2011   #26
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Plus new build will have enough RAM to just disable the pagefile altogether
Make sure you have some rudimentary page file left - like 1GB. Else your system will fail. Some programs create hard page faults, even if tons of RAM are available. What you should delete though is the hiberfile.
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30 Oct 2011   #27
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
Plus new build will have enough RAM to just disable the pagefile altogether
Make sure you have some rudimentary page file left - like 1GB. Else your system will fail. Some programs create hard page faults, even if tons of RAM are available. What you should delete though is the hiberfile.
I thought that had been worked out to an extent with win 7.

I did develop one new question though.
UPS, I need one it's been years since I purchased one so open to suggestions.
Pretty sure not having one is the reason I'm buying new parts now.
Anyhow, was looking at cyber power.
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30 Oct 2011   #28
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
I thought that had been worked out to an extent with win 7
Go to Resource Monitor > Memory tab. The graph on the bottom right will show you an occasional hard page fault even if you have plenty of available RAM.
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30 Oct 2011   #29
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

With 8GB of memory, Ive actually had apps give a virtual memory error if the PF wasn't present.
Granted, it may not be that common, but still possible.

I have a static PF set at 3.5GB I think it is, and all has been well.

I would certainly leave some form of PF in place, at least 1-4GB.
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30 Oct 2011   #30
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

FWIW, I have set my page file to 1GB min 2GB max. Plus, as I understand it, it requires a minimum of 800MB to create a dump file.
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