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Windows 7 - Need to upgrade processor and MOBO - do I really need hyper threading? |
10-29-2011
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Need to upgrade processor and MOBO - do I really need hyper threading? I'm currently running this processor and MOBO: Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor BX80562Q6600 Newegg.com - ASUS P5K EPU LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
It's just not fast enough for me.
I was leaning towards the i7 because it seems to be the fastest processor for around $300.
But apparently these new intel chips have sandy bridge which is a form of hyper threading.
I'm just trying to figure out if I truly need the processor with hyper threading. I understand it basically turns the 4 cores into 8 virtual cores, but does it apply this speed to all computer programs and functions?
I run 3 monitors and constantly doing multiple things including web design, graphic design etc.
I also plan on maxing my ram at the 32gb the MOBO will allow to help this system run as fast as possible. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built it myself OS Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64 CPU Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.40GHz Motherboard Asus Memory 8g Graphics Card Nvidia 9600 GT & 9800 GT Sound Card Turtle Beach 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Three 19" Dell's & one 46" Samsung 750 |
10-30-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience I understand it basically turns the 4 cores into 8 virtual cores, but does it apply this speed to all computer programs and functions? Take a look at the performance section here: Hyper-threading - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It helps under certain circumstances, but is not a substitute for additional cores. How much it would help in any situation varies, depending on the software involved. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
10-30-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience But apparently these new intel chips have sandy bridge which is a form of hyper threading. Sandy Bridge is the codename for the 2nd generation of Intel Core i3/i5/i7 processors. It has nothing to do with hyperthreading. Some of the Sandy Bridge processors have hyperthreading (i7-2600k), while others do not (i5-2500k). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10-30-2011
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Hmm, it seems that HT is one of those sake oil technologies that may or may not improve your computers speed
So I guess do you take plunge and spend the extra money in hopes of it benefiting you?
I was looking on newegg and they have the i7 2600 for $299 & the i7 2600k for $319
They seem to be identical in specs, does anyone know what the 2600k brings to the table over the 2600?
I figure I will go with the i7 since it's the faster of the cores at a reasonable price.
Is there another i7 around the same price range that is considerably faster than the 2600 series? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built it myself OS Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64 CPU Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.40GHz Motherboard Asus Memory 8g Graphics Card Nvidia 9600 GT & 9800 GT Sound Card Turtle Beach 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Three 19" Dell's & one 46" Samsung 750 |
10-30-2011
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#6 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |
You can always switch off HT feature if you do not want it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite P775-S7232 OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU i5-2410M 2.3GHz (2.9GHz Turbo-Boost) Sandy Bridge 32nm Motherboard Toshiba PHRAA ver. PSBY1U-00F003 Memory 4GB+4GB Samsung DDR3 PC3-10700 (1333 MHz) Graphics Card Video Intel(R) HD Graphics Family, 1696MB available memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio version=6.0.1.6323 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3 " Trubrite TFT LCD, LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1600x900 32 bit, Native support for 720P content Keyboard Premium Raised Tile keyboard Mouse Logitech M215 wireless mouse PSU Toshiba AC/DC Adapter Case Notebook Cooling Built-in Fan Hard Drives TOSHIBA MK6476GSXN
580.614 [GB] partitioned C: 80GB and D: 500GB with hidden recovery partitons.
Spare bay for 2nd HDD but no SATA connector :-( Internet Speed Not fast enough Other Info Built-in Harman Kardon speakers with Dolby Advanced Audio, Waves MaxxAudio® 3. HDMI, 1xUSB3+3xUSB2 ports, WebCam, Battery life 4hrs 11mins, 4GB Readyboost SDHC card, WD My Book Essential Ext HDDs 2 TB, 2x1TB, My Passport SE 1TB and WDTV 1st Gen for Multimedia playing on a Sony Wega 32" LCD. |
10-30-2011
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Yeah but I'd rather not spend the extra money if I'm just going to shut it off.
I'd like to hear some input on that 6 core I linked to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built it myself OS Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64 CPU Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.40GHz Motherboard Asus Memory 8g Graphics Card Nvidia 9600 GT & 9800 GT Sound Card Turtle Beach 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Three 19" Dell's & one 46" Samsung 750 |
10-30-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience I'm currently running this processor and MOBO: Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor BX80562Q6600 Newegg.com - ASUS P5K EPU LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
It's just not fast enough for me.
I was leaning towards the i7 because it seems to be the fastest processor for around $300.
But apparently these new intel chips have sandy bridge which is a form of hyper threading.
I'm just trying to figure out if I truly need the processor with hyper threading. I understand it basically turns the 4 cores into 8 virtual cores, but does it apply this speed to all computer programs and functions?
I run 3 monitors and constantly doing multiple things including web design, graphic design etc.
I also plan on maxing my ram at the 32gb the MOBO will allow to help this system run as fast as possible. For the applications you're running a hyper-threaded processor is what you want. When needed the CPU offloads the other tasks to the other cores. I'd suggest the i7-2600. The "k" processors are basically for people that want to overclock their processors, way past the factory clock. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7-3770 Motherboard Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 Memory G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT Graphics Card Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6670 Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster P2370HD, Dell 1703FPT Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Deluxe 250 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU SeaSonic M12II SS-500GM Case Lian Li PC-9F Cooling Zalman CNPS9900LED Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Internet Speed 8 Mbps |
10-31-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
I'm not sure what you are reading that makes you think HT is a bad thing, but it isn't. It isn't the same as adding an extra physical core, but for applications that can benefit from it, it does help. I have an i7-2600 that I am running now after upgrading from a Q9550 and I see a huge difference in my encoding tasks. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
10-31-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
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The 970 would be preferable only for certain specific tasks that can take advantage of the additional cores. The typical user does not regularly perform those tasks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load Need to upgrade processor and MOBO - do I really need hyper threading? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:59 AM. |  |