Sorry, but both of those have an actual Firewire 6-conductor PORT on the inside of the case. I need something that uses a 9-pin motherboard connector; looks a little like a double-wide front-USB connector.
You can see it on this one (not low-profile)
Newegg.ca - SYBA IEEE 1394a FireWire PCI Card with Internal 9-pin Header Model SD-VIA-FW1E1H
That's the problem I've been having, as they all use a standard 6-conductior firewire port as the internal port.
I guess the card manufacturers assume that your motherboard has firewire anyways (which would cast doubt on the importance of a firewire add-on card in the first place.)
I'm thinking of almost just buying that one and bending and cutting the metal to work. But i'm 90% sure I'd damage the circuitry.
I have found a few that had some sort of pin thing where the pins are parallel to the board, but that's a molex connector for more power.