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Windows 7 - SSD Real Slow |
11-15-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional (64bit) |
SSD Real Slow Slow is how I describe the performance of my SSD. I've had this SSD for about a year and over the course of the last few days I wasn't quite sure what was going with my computer.
At first I was getting these random lockups which the only way to break it was to reset the PC. They first started when I came out of Sleep, then even after the desktop got loaded on a clean bootup, it would freeze too.
Event viewer didn't tell me anything other than I had an unexpected shut down. The latest mini dump is dated last year.
Everything takes so long to load, even booting up to the desktop takes longer. I used the sites Restart-Time utility.
Restart-Time Results October 2010 - 47 seconds
Restart-Time Results November 2011 - 110 seconds
I also had taken similar snap shots from the AS SSD Benchmark tool. I've posted the results which shows October 2010 vs November 2011.
Here are my system specs:
Alienware Aurora
OS - Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
CPU - Core i7 Extreme 975 @ 3.33GHz overclocked to 3.6 GHz
Motherboard - Alienware 0H869M
Memory - 12 GB DDR3 1333MHz
Video - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.8 GB RAM
Sound - Creative SB X-Fi Titanium HD - OCZ Vertex 2 100GB SSD - Primary Drive, Western Digital 300GB SATA-II 3GB/X, 10,000 RPM, 16MB Cache - Secondary Drive
I'd appreciate your questions or recommendations what I can do to correct this situation.
Thanks,
Greg
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora OS Windows 7 Professional (64bit) CPU Core i7 Extreme 975 @ 3.33GHz overclocked to 3.6 GHz Motherboard Alienware 0H869M Memory 12 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.8 GB RAM Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2407WFP Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 875 Watt Case Cosmic Black Cooling Alienware High-Performance Liquid Cooling Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 100GB SSD - Primary Drive, Western Digital 300GB SATA-II 3GB/X, 10,000 RPM, 16MB Cache - Secondary Drive Internet Speed 60/3MB Service Other Info Logitech Z-5500 THX-Certified 505-Watt 5.1 Digital Surround Sound Speaker System |
11-15-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I would suggest you make sure you have the latest firmware. Then, from a cold boot, let it idle at the login screen for a few hours. See if that speeds it up a little. I would also run sfc /scannow to make sure the problem isn't system files. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
11-16-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 |
How full is that drive? Speed decrease is a known issue when they reach 80 - 90% of capacity.
How often do you write and re-write data? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DESKTOP - Home Built - March 2009 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-920 Motherboard Asus P6T - Bios 1408 Memory Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 - 6GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX260+ - Driver 296.10 Sound Card On board Realtek ACL1200 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2007FP Screen Resolution 1280 x 960 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX - 750 watt Case Lian Li PC-K10B Cooling Standard, 3 120mm case fans Hard Drives #1- Western Digital WD6401AALS Sata Black
#2- Western Digital WD6401AALS Sata Black Internet Speed 20Mbits/Sec (on a good day) |
11-16-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit |
+1 on both firmware and disk usage. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 3GB DDR2-667 (2x1GB + 2x512MB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on-board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2261 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~700KB/sec down, ~65KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
11-16-2011
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#5 | | |
Start your OCZ Tool Box Utility. If the drive is not highlighted, select it. Then click on Details.
On the Detail screen, click on Smart Data.
Post a snip of that screen.
Current firmware is 1.35. It looks like you're behind. http://www.ocztechnology.com/ssd_too...LE,_Agility_2/
As with most of of the SSDs, you might have to set the drive to IDE in the BIOS before applying the Firmware Upgrade. This is EXTREAMLY important. Failure to do so could "Brick" your drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
11-16-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional (64bit) |
Applied updated firmware, no change to my results. You mentioned to provide a screen shot of Smart Data from the Toolbox, see attached. Hopefully you can see something there.
Disk usage - 59% free
Ran scannow, no errors found. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora OS Windows 7 Professional (64bit) CPU Core i7 Extreme 975 @ 3.33GHz overclocked to 3.6 GHz Motherboard Alienware 0H869M Memory 12 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.8 GB RAM Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2407WFP Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU 875 Watt Case Cosmic Black Cooling Alienware High-Performance Liquid Cooling Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 100GB SSD - Primary Drive, Western Digital 300GB SATA-II 3GB/X, 10,000 RPM, 16MB Cache - Secondary Drive Internet Speed 60/3MB Service Other Info Logitech Z-5500 THX-Certified 505-Watt 5.1 Digital Surround Sound Speaker System |
11-16-2011
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#7 | | |
Is your PC plugged into a UPS? The SMART list shows 39 unexpected power losses. That's not good but otherwise your drive is 100% healthy. The power losses could have affected garbage collection though.
The idle period is a good idea but Windows has already grabbed the disk by log on. Instead, reboot and enter the BIOS. Let it sit at the BIOS main menu. I think an hour should be plenty. Most SSDs will initiate a self cleaning (TRIM) but there's no way to tell if it's running or not. (The disk light won't blink) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
11-16-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
according to OCZ forums, sandforce controllers are supposed to start from a cold boot and idle at the login screen for 2 hours each week. It is supposed to aid in 'garbage collection'. Not sure why trim dosen't do well enough for them, but it works. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
11-16-2011
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#9 | | |
Hmmmmmm. I don't think the drive is idle even when at the log on screen. Windows should hitting it by then. I don't use a log on so I can't check but if the disk activity light is blinking, the drive is busy and it ain't with garbage collection. I wonder how much of the "improvement" is the placebo effect?
Man, if that's a requirement for OCZ drives I don't believe I'll ever own one. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
11-16-2011
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#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz I wonder how much of the "improvement" is the placebo effect?  I can't remember where/when I saw it, but some 'industrious' people have charted the differences of several brands/models over time of GC+Trim vs GC+non-trim vs Trim+No GC vs No GC or Trim.
End result, GC does something.
The drive may not be 'fully' idle at log off, but it's idle 'enough' for GC to do it's thing. Quote: Man, if that's a requirement for OCZ drives I don't believe I'll ever own one.  It's not just OCZ that recommend log off/GC. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.7 Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 : Noctua NF-P12 120mm Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) Other Info Laptop Specs:
Clevo Sager P170HM //
17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
Dedicated GTX 485M //
240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //
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