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11-19-2011
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slow SSD hi is it true that SSD's can read fast but delete slow? also i've heard that the bigger the SSD drive the faster it runs ,is this correct? thank you
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11-19-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
Soulfood, yes SSDs can read fast but I'm not sure what you mean by delete slow. Almost any hard drive, SSD or mechanical can read faster than it can write. Yes, in most cases a larger size will be faster, they can put more nand in it. But, the advertised speed will make little difference in an OS drive. For an OS drive it is the 4kb reads and response times that will matter most. Even a smaller SSD will have a response time of 0.1ms (ms=1,000 of a second). That is what makes them so great as OS drives. The normal mechanical hard drive has a response time of around 15.0ms. The only real numbers that matter for the majority of OS users is rsponse time and 4kb read time. You will notice no difference in write time as you do very few writes to an OS drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
11-19-2011
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#3 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
Slow is a relative term. They'll delete data slower than they read it, but still pretty fast compared to a mechanical drive. With SSDs, the actual deletion process is taken care of behind the scenes by TRIM or the drives proprietary garbage collection.
Bigger drives of the same type/generation/controller are typically faster than smaller ones due to the way the memory blocks are allocated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
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11-19-2011
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#4 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
You need not worry about the deletes. When you click "delete", a bit is being flipped in the MFT to mark the space as "available". And for SSDs, also a Trim signal is being sent to the controller. Then, as Steve says, he actual Trim deletion process is run asynchronously in the background without the OS even knowing.
In SSDs or operating systems that do not support Trim, this deletion process takes place ahead of each write into that space. That makes write operations twice as long when Trim is not available. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:52 AM. |  |