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Windows 7: Best computer for a value of 600 to 650

27 Nov 2011   #131
Faceofjoe421

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I have chosen to get this one instead:

Zoostorm Desktop PC - Desktops | Ebuyer.com

It has the same process, but the other one has 3.8Ghz instead of 3.4, and another thing is this completely upgradable, or shall I just get a new case in the near future?

Cheers Joe.


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27 Nov 2011   #132
ignatzatsonic

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It doesn't have the same processor. It's a 2600 rather than a 2600K. There is a difference.

And I don't see any details about the motherboard type or brand. I wouldn't even consider that PC without knowing more about the motherboard.


That case is noticeably smaller than the Novatech case. Without more details, I would be suspicious it would be cramped and may not have a good layout inside. I can't see any details of the fans or bays.

It may be a micro ATX motherboard and case--which I would probably avoid, given your ideas about upgrading different parts.

Does that motherboard have 4 slots for RAM??

You normally get inside a case with a Phillips screwdriver, but you can change over to thumbscrews and then get in without a tool at all.

The SSD adapter probably screws onto the sides of the SSD, effectively making it 3.5 inches wide rather than 2.5 inches wide--so it will then be attachable to the 3.5 inch drive bay with standard length screws.
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27 Nov 2011   #133
Faceofjoe421

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I just want a really good computer (in speed and performance) for 600 now, so later, I get a good case, and swap the 1TB HDD to it, and install an SSD too with the OS on along with each part and upgrade one by one.

These are the final specs I would love.

- Any sort of GFX card (Minecraft is a pixel game do does not require much)
- 1TB HDD for Data, 64 GB SSD for OS.
- Good case (Phantom NXZT) for example.
- i7-2600(k) Processor
- 32/64GB Ram
- Powerful enough fans/PSU.

Cheers Joe.
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27 Nov 2011   #134
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faceofjoe421 View Post
I just want a really good computer (in speed and performance) for 600 now, so later, I get a good case, and swap the 1TB HDD to it, and install an SSD too with the OS on along with each part and upgrade one by one.

These are the final specs I would love.

- Any sort of GFX card (Minecraft is a pixel game do does not require much)
- 1TB HDD for Data, 64 GB SSD for OS.
- Good case (Phantom NXZT) for example.
- i7-2600(k) Processor
- 32/64GB Ram
- Powerful enough fans/PSU.

Cheers Joe.
Keep looking or go to a local builder. Ideally a local builder who will assemble your chosen parts.

If you want a particular case, you are almost certain to require a local builder or build it yourself.

The Novatech is closer to those specs than the most recent one you found.

You might add a motherboard to your above list of parts.
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27 Nov 2011   #135
Faceofjoe421

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

What about this one?

ACER X3990/I7.Computer Base Units at Comet

Link may not work (Mobile iPhone Version)

Or this one, and get an i7-2600 Processor later, along with a SSD, and 32 GB Ram?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/irushpro.html

As long as I can get this processor for the iRush Pro
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/cr/B00...d_cr_computers
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27 Nov 2011   #136
ignatzatsonic

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I wouldn't buy an Acer. Dell is superior. I have heard too many bad stories about Acer support. Anyway, it is a 2600 not a 2600K. You know nothing about the Acer motherboard or case other than the H61 chipset, which is outdated compared to H67, P67, and Z68.

The Novatech has a 2500K processor. You would be a fool to upgrade from a 2500K to a 2600K. There is little difference between them. If you want a 2600K, get it to start with rather than upgrading to it from a 2500K.

This Novatech with the 2500K also has a micro ATX motherboard and would not have several PCI slots that you might need if you plan to get involved in upgrading. In such a case, you might wish you had a full ATX motherboard rather than a micro ATX.

The best PC you have located so far is the original Novatech with the 2600K.
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27 Nov 2011   #137
Faceofjoe421

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I can't get the Hard Drive separately at first, so I think I will either get the iRush Pro, get 32GB Ram, and an SSD OR get this:

Dell Mobile - Dell XPS 8300 Media Desktop — Reviews, Specifications & More | Dell UK

With a SSD upgrade, RAM, and case upgrade.
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27 Nov 2011   #138
ignatzatsonic

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If you get the Dell, you may be faced with the PSU issues mentioned earlier in this thread---non-compatibility due to proprietary connections, either on the PSU, motherboard, or front panel.

From what you have listed so far, I would go with Novatech, a mid-tower ATX case, a full ATX motherboard, and 8 GB RAM to start with.

I wouldn't plan on upgrading a case. Stay with the case you buy for a while. If it is a poor or a non-standard case, you shouldn't buy it to begin with.

Spend your money on SSD, more RAM as you need it, and monitor.

You will probably only have 4 memory slots. That points to 16 GB RAM max for most budgets--8 GB RAM sticks are going to be rare and expensive.

Pay attention to the motherboard chipset. Due to budget, you may not want to get in a situation where you MUST buy a separate videocard. For instance, I don't think you can use the integrated graphics on a 2500K or 2600K on a motherboard with a P67 chipset--you would have to buy a separate video card. Or use an H67 or Z68 chipset. You should have other members confirm this, but that is my recollection.

If you don't intend to overclock, there is no particular reason to get a K processor rather than a non-K. You could use a 2500 or 2600 and use the integrated graphics with an H 67 chipset.
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27 Nov 2011   #139
Faceofjoe421

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
If you get the Dell, you may be faced with the PSU issues mentioned earlier in this thread---non-compatibility due to proprietary connections, either on the PSU, motherboard, or front panel.

From what you have listed so far, I would go with Novatech, a mid-tower ATX case, a full ATX motherboard, and 8 GB RAM to start with.

I wouldn't plan on upgrading a case. Stay with the case you buy for a while. If it is a poor or a non-standard case, you shouldn't buy it to begin with.

Spend your money on SSD, more RAM as you need it, and monitor.

You will probably only have 4 memory slots. That points to 16 GB RAM max for most budgets--8 GB RAM sticks are going to be rare and expensive.

Pay attention to the motherboard chipset. Due to budget, you may not want to get in a situation where you MUST buy a separate videocard. For instance, I don't think you can use the integrated graphics on a 2500K or 2600K on a motherboard with a P67 chipset--you would have to buy a separate video card. Or use an H67 or Z68 chipset. You should have other members confirm this, but that is my recollection.

If you don't intend to overclock, there is no particular reason to get a K processor rather than a non-K. You could use a 2500 or 2600 and use the integrated graphics with an H 67 chipset.
Wow, 8GB ram costs 100 pounds a piece, I have chosen a 50 monitor and will be getting a SSD, I would like to overclock but I am worried about overheating
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27 Nov 2011   #140
ignatzatsonic

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You are almost certainly overestimating your need for RAM. 8 is plenty for nearly everyone and only an extreme case (not you) would need more than 16. I have 4 and have no need for even 8.

Overclocking is relatively easy with the 2500k or 2600k. Heat issues are controllable by upgrading to a new CPU cooler and possibly different case fans. Think about overclocking after you have the thing a while and have your SSD.
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