| Windows 7: Suggestions for new 2TB internal HDD? |
02 Dec 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |
Suggestions for new 2TB internal HDD? Okay, as you can see from my system specs, I currently have a 1TB 3.5" Western Digital Caviar Black in my main computer.
I currently have 11GB free space  , the main issue being my extensive media collection ("huh, you think yours is big, you should..." "yes, it is. It isn't only on that HDD, it is spread across several, this is just my main internal one and all external ones are now full and I want a new internal HDD rather than a new external HDD") (mostly TV and films taking up the majority of the space, I'm sure those of you that use iTunes will understand just how ridiculously large those files can be...  ). So, I plan on buying a 2TB internal HDD to shift all my media across to and then give Steam and other software a lot more breathing space on the 1TB internal one (which would also stay as the boot drive).
I have had my eyes set on a 2TB WD Caviar Black, as it would 'match' and I would (touch-wood) trust it. However, the price tag of around £200 does rather put me off.... So, here is a list of my opinions on some major and not-so-major/defunct/bought-out hard drive manufacturers: - Seagate - I do like Seagate, after all, the 2x500GB external drives are still going strong (again, touch-wood
). Would a Barracuda be a suitable compliment for a Caviar Black? - Hitachi - Been a mixed bag. Had one ages back that was really quiet and still works today, but many others that broke very soon.
- Matsushita - please don't get me started. Thankfully they're kinda gone now
 - Maxtor -
bad, bad memories.
So, with those opinions in mind, any suggestion for a hard drive that is: - good
- reliable
- 2TB
- 3.5"
- 7200RPM
- SATA
- Cheaper than £200
(I want the HDD to be as silent running as humanly possible, but not an SSD as I want space, not speed (and no, please no SSD devotees going "oh, but you can get 512GB SSDs now for only $1,000,000, and they're super speedy! And when you say 'fast', do you mean you don't want it to be 7200RPM, it could be lower?" No, I want a mechanical 'classic' HDD at 7200RPM) | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
02 Dec 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
I do like Samsung myself. Have you considered the EcoGreen F4: Internal | SAMSUNG Hard Disk Drive
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
02 Dec 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Pro-x64 South Texas |
The choices are getting pretty slim these days. Seagate bought Maxtor years ago and Western Digital just bought Hitachi. I just hope WD doesn't continue the "DeathStar" tradition but rather uses the acquisition to expand their own products.
This is bad time to be in need of a HDD. The inventory is way down and prices are way up. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
02 Dec 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I'd go with either WD or Samsung---whichever is cheapest from your suppliers. I think someone just bought Samsung's HD business--may have been WD?
The Samsung 103SJ 1TB drive is very fast, comparable to a WD Caviar Black, but I have not kept up with reviews and speeds on 2 TB models.
The "Green" series of drives might save you a couple of bucks a year on electricity, but as far as I know, none of them are 7200 RPM.
In my experience, Samsungs are quieter than most and run a tad cooler than most.
I'd deliberately avoid Seagate.
You need a little bit of luck with any HDD purchase--as you say, "touch-wood".
If you delay as long as possible, you may see prices drop a bit as production moves back up after the flooding in Thailand. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
04 Dec 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |
I've never had a Samsung and never considered them, but that HDD does look rather tempting, thanks for the suggestion 
Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz The choices are getting pretty slim these days. Seagate bought Maxtor years ago and Western Digital just bought Hitachi. I just hope WD doesn't continue the "DeathStar" tradition but rather uses the acquisition to expand their own products.
This is bad time to be in need of a HDD. The inventory is way down and prices are way up. Thanks for reminding me about the HDD supply issues - they had slipped my mind and I had been rather alarmed with a lot of the HDD prices across the board, being certain they didn't used to be that much 
Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I'd go with either WD or Samsung---whichever is cheapest from your suppliers. I think someone just bought Samsung's HD business--may have been WD?
The Samsung 103SJ 1TB drive is very fast, comparable to a WD Caviar Black, but I have not kept up with reviews and speeds on 2 TB models.
The "Green" series of drives might save you a couple of bucks a year on electricity, but as far as I know, none of them are 7200 RPM.
In my experience, Samsungs are quieter than most and run a tad cooler than most.
I'd deliberately avoid Seagate.
You need a little bit of luck with any HDD purchase--as you say, "touch-wood".
If you delay as long as possible, you may see prices drop a bit as production moves back up after the flooding in Thailand. Another thumbs up for Samsung... okay, I've decided I'll go down the Samsung path, as a bit of a change from WD and to try something new
All the 2TB green drives seem to be around 1/2 the price of the likes of the Caviar Blacks; is that because of the speed?
Unfortunately, I have two issues:
1) sadly, Golden's suggestion seems to be a 5400RPM HDD. The majority of my HDDs in the past have been 7200RPM, however, given that my primary and probably sole use of this HDD will be media (such as videos), do I need it to be 7200RPM? I mean, I guess that probably sounds like a dumb question "you're wondering if you need a HDD to be fast when your main use will be accessing files... DUH!"  but surely something like a single avi file wouldn't need as high an RPM for the HDD as, say, running a game off the HDD which has lots and lots of files that are constantly in demand. If my primary function for the HDD doesn't in fact need to be 7200RPM, that would be great for a) my wallet in the short-run with a green HDD price, and b) my wallet in the long-run with energy bills  (I say green as that's what most high-capacity but lower RPM HDDs seem to be).
2) SATA. When perusing many online stores, I came across most HDDs mentioning "SATA II". Now, I'm more of an IDE expert as until this current computer and the PS3, all I used were IDE HDDs in everything. a) what is SATA II? (probably the obvious "it's the next step up from original SATA") and b) will my computer/motherboard support it? My computer is an HP tower from 2010, with this motherboard inside it. As you can see from the 'Internal Connectors' subheading, it just mentions "-- 4 SATA connectors". I would assume that surely it must support SATA II, given how many HDDs are SATA II and the computer is fairly new. (the current 1TB HDD in the PC seems to be a Western Digital WD1001FAES-60Z2A0, claiming to be "Serial ATA 3Gb/s")
thanks all for the help, info, and suggestions | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
04 Dec 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |
I use 3 of those 2TB Samsung F4 drives as well as 3 2TB WD Green drives in my system to store my media.
The other 2 drives in the machine are WD 1TB Black drives, 1 for the OS/Programs and 1 for Steam and my other games.
The Samsungs are plenty fast, just as fast if not faster than the my WD 1TB Black drives. I was surprised and pleased at the same time.
I recently bought a pair of WD 2TB Green drives since Best Buy still had them on sale for $80 after the price increase, $220 at other vendors.
Used one in my HTPC and the other was a spare that I had to use the same day I bought them when one of the 3 WD drives died in my main machine.
Sata 2 is Sata 6Gb/s, just a faster interface but you won't get anywhere near SATA 1 speeds with single spinning disks anyways.
SATA 1 and 2 drives work on either interface, so you are fine for connections. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
04 Dec 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher I use 3 of those 2TB Samsung F4 drives as well as 3 2TB WD Green drives in my system to store my media.
The other 2 drives in the machine are WD 1TB Black drives, 1 for the OS/Programs and 1 for Steam and my other games.
The Samsungs are plenty fast, just as fast if not faster than the my WD 1TB Black drives. I was surprised and pleased at the same time.
I recently bought a pair of WD 2TB Green drives since Best Buy still had them on sale for $80 after the price increase, $220 at other vendors.
Used one in my HTPC and the other was a spare that I had to use the same day I bought them when one of the 3 WD drives died in my main machine.
Sata 2 is Sata 6Gb/s, just a faster interface but you won't get anywhere near SATA 1 speeds with single spinning disks anyways.
SATA 1 and 2 drives work on either interface, so you are fine for connections. thanks for clearing up the different version issue I was nervous about, and thanks for the example of your uses... looks like I'll be going for the 2TB Samsung EcoGreen F4 @ 5400RPM then 
thank you all for your input | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
05 Dec 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher Sata 2 is Sata 6Gb/s Typo?
Sata 2 is actually 3GB/sec.
Sata 1 is 1.5GB/sec, and Sata 3 is 6GB/sec. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD5770 dual-DVI (1), (see TV cards); ATI HD4850 (2) Sound Card Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC |
05 Dec 2011
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#9 | | |
I've currently got 4 of the Samsung EcoGreen F4 2TB drives and they are great. Not a single problem with any of them.
Of course, a few months ago they were $79 and are now $199. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
05 Dec 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |
so nothing but praise for the EcoGreen F4 and several examples of them functioning fine, definitely the one to go for then 
I hope the HDD demand drops down soon-ish, but I guess everyone is hoping for that  I suppose I'll hold out as long as possible in anticipation of prices going back to normal | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. Suggestions for new 2TB internal HDD? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:18 AM. | |