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Windows 7 - How to erase data on a drive that won't mount? |
12-05-2011
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How to erase data on a drive that won't mount? I've been racking my brain on this problem for a while now and figured I'd throw this situation out to the crowd to see what kind of ingenious answers I could get to this problem.
I have a failed hard drive that I'd like to send back to get replaced but obviously want all my data wiped first. The problem is that the drive has failed so miserably that it won't even mount to any system in order to perform any sort of wiping. I've connected it to my system directly, via a USB to IDE adapter, and via an eSATA adapter in both Windows and Linux to no avail. Sometimes it will show up in the Device Manager under Hard Drives, but that's as far as it gets - it's never assigned a letter and doesn't show up in Disk Manager. It doesn't show up in Ubuntu when I perform an fdisk either so I can't perform a DD.
This is a bit of a catch 22 as the hard drive has failed to the point where it can't be read, but I'm not sure what measures are going to be employed to attempt to validate and read the data at the manufacturer when they test it for failure. If the drive all of a sudden starts working, there is too much personal data on there for me to just hope doesn't turn up.
Any ideas (other than mounting another similar drive's controller to it)?
| My System Specs | | OS XP / Win7 x64 Pro CPU Intel Quad-Core Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5-E Memory 2x2GB GSkill DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (EVGA) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
12-05-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
For me, if there's that much personal data on it, I wouldn't send it back at all but instead just buy a knew drive. Then to insure that the hard drive wont fall into the wrong hands and attempt to recover the data, I take a sledge hammer to them. Then dispose of the mess properly. POM as we call it....peace of mind.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Motherboard Asus M4N78 Pro Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card PowerColor Radeon HD 4870 512mb GDDR5 Sound Card On board VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors: HP W1907 LCD 19" and Gateway HD Display 19" L Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Ultra E-Torque mid tower ATX Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
12-05-2011
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#3 | | Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit |
Would be very interested in hearing any solutions to this problem -- as I had run into much the same issue a few weeks back when a fairly new WD 2TB drive suddenly started failing on me. I ran the WD diags against it -- but after a few minutes and only 2% (or so) into the drive, the utility seemed to hang up. Next day, it was at the same place -- so I rebooted and tried to run the low-level format utility (to erase the data). It too, failed.
Not wishing to provide 2TB of personal data to the folks at WD, I physically trashed the drive.
But ... it would be nice to know if there is a way to wipe out a damaged drive -- if this should happen again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit CPU AMD 4400/Intel 915 Motherboard ASUS/Intel Memory 2GB DDR 400 Graphics Card ATI X1600/Builtin Intel 915 Sound Card Bluegear B-Enspirer/Builtin sound Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" widescreen Screen Resolution 1920x1200/1024 x 768 |
12-05-2011
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Yea, that's pretty much where I stand on this. It isn't worth it at this point, even though HDD's have skyrocketed due to the artificial inflation. But, I wanted to throw it out there in case anyone had a novel idea I hadn't thought of. | My System Specs | | OS XP / Win7 x64 Pro CPU Intel Quad-Core Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5-E Memory 2x2GB GSkill DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (EVGA) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
12-05-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1) |

Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 Any ideas (other than mounting another similar drive's controller to it)? Well, that's what I was going to suggest (assuming could can lay your hands on an identical drive) but that assumes you REALLY REALLY want to try to recover the data. But barring that, I've got a couple of major magnets in my shop, one is used to pick-up nails & screws & whatnot and is very powerful, would likely destroy any drive...
In the end I doubt when you RMA the thing that anything is done beyond a cursory attempt perhaps to see if they can mount it. But if you're REALLY worried the contents might be extracted, then just destroy it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1) |
12-05-2011
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#6 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Use some strong magnets and "massage" the drive with those. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12-05-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I agree with Bassfisher, to me it is not worth the risk. As far as I know, there is no way to destroy the data that will not void the warranty. Supposedly, opening the case and the sealant thus exposing the hard drive to air will destroy the data, but it will also void the warranty. When my drives fail, they get the hammer treatment. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
12-06-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit |
Without a doubt, removing the harddisk's airtight seal will pretty much render it unusable due to near-instant contamination. It will practically guarantee a headcrash the next time the drive is powered up and starts spinning while the heads load onto the surface.
But - headcrash aside - it will not destroy any data on the platters whatsoever. Someone could even steal such an opened drive and simply send it in for professional data recovery - and all they'll need to do is polish and clean the platters, then go on their merry way about reading all the data straight off without much effort.
Hammer treatment? Sounds good to me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 3GB DDR2-667 (2x1GB + 2x512MB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on-board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2261 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~700KB/sec down, ~65KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
12-06-2011
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You would need really, really strong magnets to destroy large amounts of data on the disk. I think the general consensus is the same conclusion I had reached, so it's good to know I haven't missed anything. Thanks for the feedback, everyone. | My System Specs | | OS XP / Win7 x64 Pro CPU Intel Quad-Core Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5-E Memory 2x2GB GSkill DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (EVGA) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
12-06-2011
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#10 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Quote: You would need really, really strong magnets Like from an old defunct transformer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 How to erase data on a drive that won't mount? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 PM. |  |