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Windows 7 - Did my mobo or PSU bite the dust? kb/m lock, no boot, fans run when of |
12-10-2011
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Did my mobo or PSU bite the dust? kb/m lock, no boot, fans run when of Earlier today I get back to my computer and it looked like it was frozen, because the mouse and keyboard didn't work. So I rebooted and it got into Windows normally, but the kb/m became unresponsive again. And I new it wasn't the system that was frozen because the connectivity indicator was animating. And each time I booted the kb/m became unresponsive at a predetermined time, whether I was in the Windows sign in screen, the BIOS setup, or running on the windows installation CD.
And in between these times it seemed like it had trouble starting up. Sometimes when I pressed the power button the fan would just give a little wheeze and nothing would happen. Later, pressing the power button did nothing at all.
Then one time I tried unplugging and replugging in the PSU it started acting goofy. Now whenever it's plugged in to the outlet, it emits this high pitched sound. And if it's plugged in to the mother board, its own fan and the CPU fan automatically start going, even though the computer isn't on.
What do you suppose might be wrong with them?
Motherboard: Chaintech VNF3-250
PSU: Thermaltake Purepower HPC-420-302 DF
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core2 Quad Motherboard Intel DP35DP Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Asus ENGTX460 Sound Card Creative Xtreme Fatality Monitor(s) Displays EV700 Keyboard Mincrosoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard Mouse Wheel Mouse Optical PSU Startech ATX2PW550PRO Case Tsunami Dream Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ
Seagate Barracuda 320GB Internet Speed 20mbps |
12-10-2011
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Hi,
Your in a chicken & egg place here, but I would suggest the power supply first place to start as that is the cheepest to investigate.
A power supply of only 420W does seem a little low though? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP-Pavilion m9280.uk-a OS Vista Home premium 32bit CPU 2.30 gigahertz AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Motherboard ASUSTek Computer INC. NARRA3 3.02 Memory 3582 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory (4 Gig) Graphics Card ASUS NVIDIA Geforce GTS450 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Twin: - HP w2408h 24.0" Screen Resolution 1920 * 1200 by 1920 * 1200 Hard Drives 1500.30 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
1188.54 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L SCSI CdRom Device
KJWTGRQ YFS52R8XQ SCSI CdRom Device
TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N SCSI CdRom Device |
12-10-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Without proper tools, it can be difficult determining whether it is a bad PSU or a bad motherboard.
I'd first try to come up with another PSU to swap in temporarily to see if the problem disappears.
Any visible signs of a bad motherboard, such as bulging capacitors?
Chaintech is a bit of a dodgy brand. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
12-10-2011
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it might be that the kb/m both are malfunctioning and if youre using ps2 ports man that CAN freeze windows i had the problem way back..and if youre not using ps2 ports well the usb ports might have some problems and the power supply too cause of the fan.. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultumate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T (LGA1366) Memory 6GB DDR3 Graphics Card 896MB GeForce GTX 260 (XFX Pine Group) in SLI Mode Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron W2243T 22" Screen Resolution 1920*1080 Hard Drives 977 Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 ATA device (SATA) |
12-10-2011
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If this is the power supply you have, Roundup: 14 Power Supply Units from Thermaltake. Page 3 - X-bit labs
I'm surprised it didn't blow up when you first connected that GTX 460 to it. With only 18A on the 12V rail I'm surprised that it would even boot with that card installed.
As the others have already said start with the power supply, and hope that when it died it didn't take anything else with it. And from the sounds of what you're describing, it may well have killed the motherboard. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card X-Fi Xtreme Music w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
12-10-2011
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I should clarify that i have two computers, and the specs in my profile are from the other, slightly less ancient, one. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core2 Quad Motherboard Intel DP35DP Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Asus ENGTX460 Sound Card Creative Xtreme Fatality Monitor(s) Displays EV700 Keyboard Mincrosoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard Mouse Wheel Mouse Optical PSU Startech ATX2PW550PRO Case Tsunami Dream Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ
Seagate Barracuda 320GB Internet Speed 20mbps |
12-10-2011
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So you're running that GTX 460 on an even worse power supply then.
And to determine whether it is the motherboard or the power supply in the other, either try the power supply on another computer or try another power supply in the suspect one.
May find that the power supply is fine 9or as fine as that thing can be) and what happened is that a voltage surge or something hit it and it let it through, and ended up killing the motherboard.
If it helps any the last three computers I worked on with the same symptoms (fans spin, and nothing else), it was a dead (or mostly blown) motherboard, all from a power surge that the power supply should have stopped (or died itself from). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card X-Fi Xtreme Music w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
12-10-2011
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I suppose I'll have to get a new PSU anyway since I don't have any other 20 pin ones to test with.
So a Startech AXT2PW550PRO is no good for a GTX460? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core2 Quad Motherboard Intel DP35DP Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Asus ENGTX460 Sound Card Creative Xtreme Fatality Monitor(s) Displays EV700 Keyboard Mincrosoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard Mouse Wheel Mouse Optical PSU Startech ATX2PW550PRO Case Tsunami Dream Hard Drives Samsung HD502HJ
Seagate Barracuda 320GB Internet Speed 20mbps |
12-10-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I always recommend, Corsair, Seasonic or Antec PSUs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
12-10-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (desktop) / x64 (laptop) |
You might also want to consider the cables within the CPU. I experienced the same thing with our desktop due to a faulty serial ATA cable. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (desktop) / x64 (laptop) CPU AMD Phenom 2 X3 720 2.8 GHz (desktop) / AMD Dual-Core E-350 Motherboard ASRock N68-VS3 UCC / Acer Aspire 5253 Memory 4 Gb DDR3 / 4Gb DD3 Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450 2048 Mb / AMD Radeon HD 6310 Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic Screen Resolution 1024 x 768 / 1366 x 768 Keyboard Logitech Keyboard Mouse A4tech Infrared Mouse / Philips Infrared Mouse PSU Electron ATX-600W Case Some Case Cooling AMD built-in cooling fan Hard Drives 313GB Seagate ST332041 8AS SCSI Disk Device (ATA) / 500 Gb HDD Internet Speed 1 Mbps Other Info Information of the PC's specs courtesy of Speccy freeware. Lol. Did my mobo or PSU bite the dust? kb/m lock, no boot, fans run when of problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM. |  |