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Windows 7: I need some reassuring on SSDs

11 Dec 2011   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I know 250GB (really something like 220GB
LOL - the binary number is still 250 billion bytes. It is just another unit.


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11 Dec 2011   #12
jayrap

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
 
 

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In the second link there was something saying that you should disable system restore? Good idea? Bad idea? The SSD Optimization Guide - The SSD Review (Step 3)
That is a space problem more than anything else. Restore points take a lot of space (up to 1GB per shot) and on a 60GB SSD space is scarce. I always allocate 3GBs to the shadowstorage (that is where the restore points are kept) and then I make frequent images - which should be easy for you with your 2 HDDs.

For certain things, restore points are handy. But images are a lot better and safer.
This is what scared me the most though...
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This is the most important piece of information in this Guide. Recent testing has discovered that System Restore allocates restore points within many SSDs that do not work well with the SSD or TRIM. Typically, System Restore will degrade SSD performance significantly within a few weeks and makes it very difficult for TRIM to function. Disabling System Restore is not only recommended throughout the web, but also, Intel has lately also included this advise with respect to its ssds.
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11 Dec 2011   #13
jayrap

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
 
 

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I know 250GB (really something like 220GB
LOL - the binary number is still 250 billion bytes. It is just another unit.
I was reffering to this Hard drive space less than expected - Tech Support Guy Forums
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11 Dec 2011   #14
Ivan the SoSo

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that programSSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring

Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits.....


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11 Dec 2011   #15
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I know 250GB (really something like 220GB
LOL - the binary number is still 250 billion bytes. It is just another unit.
I was reffering to this Hard drive space less than expected - Tech Support Guy Forums
This is a post of someone who does not understand the system and mathematics. I think you read too much junk on the web.
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11 Dec 2011   #16
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that programSSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring

Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits.....
These nums are indeed a bit disappointing. My nums are a lot better. Must be your particular model. I guess they are not all the same.
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11 Dec 2011   #17
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 X64
 
 

I have 4 SSDs from 3 different manufacturers. I can assure you that your fears a unfounded. I leave my computers on 24/7 and have gone through several power outages with no damage or corrupted files. As far as your quote you submitted, I do not believe it. I have system restore enabled on my SSDs and, like WHS, have only reduced the space allocated for them. None of mine have degraded performance. As far as all the tweeks you read about, many were written for first generation SSDs. The current generation do not need them. I set min just as WHS said. I disable hibernate to save space, turn defrag to manual, leave superfetch enabled, and make sure it is aligned and in AHCI mode. There are no other tweeks needed or necessary. You can tweek an SSD to where the performance is degraded. Windows 7 knows how to deal with SSDs well. Just move your user files to another mechanical hard drive and yes, you can install games and steam on another hard drive with no ill effects.
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11 Dec 2011   #18
jayrap

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
 
 

I've just had a read on Gibibytes and Gigabytes, I suppose that's the mathematics you were talking about - rather confusing :S
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11 Dec 2011   #19
Ivan the SoSo

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that programSSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring

Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits.....
These nums are indeed a bit disappointing. My nums are a lot better. Must be your particular model. I guess they are not all the same.
Yeah I wish it was better, but in a couple of years I could probably get a 512 gig drive for less than what I paid for this one....Then it can go in my old XP Pro laptop that I almost never use....Then I can use it as a archive disk.....
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11 Dec 2011   #20
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I've just had a read on Gibibytes and Gigabytes, I suppose that's the mathematics you were talking about - rather confusing :S
Yeah, that's what you get when you fall asleep in school when they teach binary - lol.
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