| Windows 7: I need some reassuring on SSDs |
11 Dec 2011
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#11 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: I know 250GB (really something like 220GB LOL - the binary number is still 250 billion bytes. It is just another unit. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
11 Dec 2011
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#12 | | Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit United Kingdom |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs That is a space problem more than anything else. Restore points take a lot of space (up to 1GB per shot) and on a 60GB SSD space is scarce. I always allocate 3GBs to the shadowstorage (that is where the restore points are kept) and then I make frequent images - which should be easy for you with your 2 HDDs.
For certain things, restore points are handy. But images are a lot better and safer. This is what scared me the most though... Quote: This is the most important piece of information in this Guide. Recent testing has discovered that System Restore allocates restore points within many SSDs that do not work well with the SSD or TRIM. Typically, System Restore will degrade SSD performance significantly within a few weeks and makes it very difficult for TRIM to function. Disabling System Restore is not only recommended throughout the web, but also, Intel has lately also included this advise with respect to its ssds.  | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3) Memory 8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel Graphics Card XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock) Sound Card Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors Case Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans) Cooling Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED Hard Drives 1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste Internet Speed BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload Other Info Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway. |
11 Dec 2011
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#13 | | Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit United Kingdom |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Quote: I know 250GB (really something like 220GB LOL - the binary number is still 250 billion bytes. It is just another unit. I was reffering to this Hard drive space less than expected - Tech Support Guy Forums | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3) Memory 8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel Graphics Card XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock) Sound Card Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors Case Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans) Cooling Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED Hard Drives 1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste Internet Speed BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload Other Info Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway. |
11 Dec 2011
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#14 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |
SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that program SSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring
Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits  ..... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU FX 8350@4300mhz COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme4 AM3+ Memory 16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 & XFX 5850 crossfire Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse Logitech wireless m705 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives ADATA 256 gig SSD + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl |
11 Dec 2011
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#15 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
This is a post of someone who does not understand the system and mathematics. I think you read too much junk on the web. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
11 Dec 2011
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#16 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that program SSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring
Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits  ..... These nums are indeed a bit disappointing. My nums are a lot better. Must be your particular model. I guess they are not all the same. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
11 Dec 2011
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I have 4 SSDs from 3 different manufacturers. I can assure you that your fears a unfounded. I leave my computers on 24/7 and have gone through several power outages with no damage or corrupted files. As far as your quote you submitted, I do not believe it. I have system restore enabled on my SSDs and, like WHS, have only reduced the space allocated for them. None of mine have degraded performance. As far as all the tweeks you read about, many were written for first generation SSDs. The current generation do not need them. I set min just as WHS said. I disable hibernate to save space, turn defrag to manual, leave superfetch enabled, and make sure it is aligned and in AHCI mode. There are no other tweeks needed or necessary. You can tweek an SSD to where the performance is degraded. Windows 7 knows how to deal with SSDs well. Just move your user files to another mechanical hard drive and yes, you can install games and steam on another hard drive with no ill effects. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
11 Dec 2011
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#18 | | Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit United Kingdom |
I've just had a read on Gibibytes and Gigabytes, I suppose that's the mathematics you were talking about - rather confusing :S | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3) Memory 8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel Graphics Card XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock) Sound Card Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D Screen Resolution 1920x1080@60Hz Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors Case Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans) Cooling Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED Hard Drives 1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste Internet Speed BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload Other Info Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway. |
11 Dec 2011
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#19 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs 
Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo SSD's don't go bad, but there is a limit to the number of write/rewrite cycles....when that limit is reached the drive will become read only.....Here is a link to that program SSD life - tool for solid state drives health and endurance monitoring
Not to say they are not awesome, but they have their limits  ..... These nums are indeed a bit disappointing. My nums are a lot better. Must be your particular model. I guess they are not all the same. Yeah I wish it was better, but in a couple of years I could probably get a 512 gig drive for less than what I paid for this one  ....Then it can go in my old XP Pro laptop that I almost never use....Then I can use it as a archive disk..... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU FX 8350@4300mhz COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme4 AM3+ Memory 16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 & XFX 5850 crossfire Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse Logitech wireless m705 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives ADATA 256 gig SSD + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl |
11 Dec 2011
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#20 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by jayrap I've just had a read on Gibibytes and Gigabytes, I suppose that's the mathematics you were talking about - rather confusing :S Yeah, that's what you get when you fall asleep in school when they teach binary - lol. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 I need some reassuring on SSDs problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 PM. | |