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Windows 7 - Rather messy thermal paste issue =/ |
12-25-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview |
Rather messy thermal paste issue =/ So upon getting my brand new CPU cooler with many other computer goodies this Christmas morning, it was not long before I hurried off to install my new Cooler master Hyper 212 Plus (not flash by any means, but decent). A complete novice to CPU coolers, I was cautious about installation, aware of what was potentially at stake here, and held off. After some encouragement from a family member I decided to go ahead, but my lack of knowledge proved problematic. You know how about a pea sized dollop of thermal paste is good? Well...lets say I may have put something a little closer to 4 peas (hurr), and there was a lot of excess, which has kind of spurted out covering most of the CPU, with a some on the PCB part (as opposed to the slightly smaller metal square), with some even managing to get onto the bracket.
Now I'll be honest I don't want to repeat the experience, but if this is going to cause serious irreversible problems, please let me know?
However what I really wanted to ask, was when it comes to deal to this mess, say I change cooler again as my set-up is really designed for something more like a Corsair Hydro Series cooler, as the large vengeance ram obstructs larger coolers (such as the Hyper 212 plus, by about 1cm), but this is a long-term-temporary stand in (temporary, but will be there a while). Anyway...when I come to change coolers, or perhaps earlier than that, a clean up will be required for sure. My main question to all you, what is a good way to do this?
I think removal of the CPU will be an idea, that way I can clean it well, get any of it off the bracket. I used cotton buds (some people call them Q-Tips or something..) and rubbing alcohol (ethanol) to remove the other paste, I would plan on using that again. Could this cause damage to the PCB or any other parts in the socket area? Obviously it wants to be 100% dry before I put power back through it, but I don't plan on drenching it or anything, just a damp cotton bud, dry enough no alcohol should drip off, or even leave much of a residue. Any tips will be greatly appreciated
Thanks | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview CPU Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz Motherboard Gigabyte P-67A UD4-B3 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair HX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling 3x Antec 3speed fans, Silverstone Air Penetrator Blue. Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler |
12-25-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011 |
Just be careful not to damage any parts.
As for the amount you put on check this out for some guide lines. Like you said, "way too much." Arctic Silver, Inc. - Instructions | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011 CPU i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghz Motherboard Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe Memory Corsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gb Graphics Card Asus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster T220 - Panasonic VT30a 50" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 - Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MX620 PSU Corsair HX-850 Power Supply Case Coolmaster HAF 932 Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Corsair Force 3 SSD 120GB x 2 ::
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12-25-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview |
Not damaging parts is kinda obvious :P Im asking if you guys know of any things one might do that would damage parts that you would like to tell me not to do, or anything that would make it easier to do, or safer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview CPU Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz Motherboard Gigabyte P-67A UD4-B3 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair HX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling 3x Antec 3speed fans, Silverstone Air Penetrator Blue. Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 32mb cache Other Info NZXT Sentry 2 Fan controller
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler |
12-25-2011
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#4 | | |
i'd take the heatsink back off the cpu (carefully) clean all around the cpu so you don't get any paste down under the cpu. then clean the cpu .make sure no paste in on the board and repaste it and reinstall the heatsink.(remember just a small bit of paste).
take your time do it right and you should be ok.
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4 seagate 1.5 tb Internet Speed 5 mbit |
12-25-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I agree with all posted above. Also, you need to use lint free cloth to clean up. Cotton can leave residue. I use coffee filters. They are lint free and and readily available in most households. This is a different cooler, but the same principle applys, maybe it will help. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
12-25-2011
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#6 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
Be particularly careful with the CPU socket on the motherboard. Touch one of those little hair-thin pins inside and it's had it. The socket cover which came with the motherboard should be used during the cleanup process. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
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12-25-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) |
I, too, was terrified the very first time I installed a giant cooler/fan onto a CPU in a machine I was building. As has been recommended, the instructions provided by Arctic Silver's site on how to do it and just what ONE DROP was and how you should align it based on whether you had a single, dual or quad CPU, etc.... it was by my side and never left it.
Anyway, the cooler/fan actually was slightly defective in its bearings, and was making an audible noise when spinning. This turned out to be very irritating as the case sits on my desk near me, and I couldn't stand what turns out to be an audible fan instead of the truly silent one I'd bought and paid for.
So I RMA'd it, and they sent me a new one (which, thankfully, was truly silent). However I now needed to remove the original and clean things up before installing the new one (I was now a "pro" with thermal paste, having accumulated an experience level of ONE!).
I went with Arctic Silver's "ArctiClean" product, rather than just using alcohol. I don't know if it was absolutely necessary, but it sure did an astonishing job. I mean the thermal paste residue on the top surface of the CPU literally dissolved into pretty much water! I just wiped it away with a cotton cloth and it was gone! NO trace left at all! Amazing solvent.
Now granted, I didn't also have to use it on PCB areas or other nearby components. But for removal of "properly applied" thermal paste from a CPU, this stuff is remarkable. I would also have to believe that Arctic Silver has made it so that it is zero-dangerous to surrounding parts nearby the CPU, just in case you do get a little "sloppy" or actually do have to clean the neighboring pieces as well.
Highly recommend if you ever need something like it again in the future. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU E6850 3.0Ghz/4MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard SuperMicro C2SBX (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 4GB PC3-8500 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD4850 (1); ATI HD5770 (dual-DVI) (2) (see TV cards) Sound Card Realtek ALC883 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo 24" S2433W (1); Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Microsoft wired (1); Logitech MX Revolution wireless (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1x1TB SATA (7200 RPM), 1x300GB U320 SCSI (10000RPM), 1x750GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS;
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12-25-2011
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Quote: Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.) My underline.
This statement bothers me. If the compound can create a capacitive bridge, it IS conductive.
While the MB tracings are normally coated with lacquer, it's best to clean the compound from anywhere it's not supposed to be. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
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12-26-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview |
Hmmm...I'm begging to think it may be an idea to redo this. 
Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp Be particularly careful with the CPU socket on the motherboard. Touch one of those little hair-thin pins inside and it's had it. The socket cover which came with the motherboard should be used during the cleanup process.  I don't have this any more...is there something I can use instead? I didn't realise it was that sensitive (I have never actually seen under the CPU). 
Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber I went with Arctic Silver's "ArctiClean" product, rather than just using alcohol. I don't know if it was absolutely necessary, but it sure did an astonishing job. I mean the thermal paste residue on the top surface of the CPU literally dissolved into pretty much water! I just wiped it away with a cotton cloth and it was gone! NO trace left at all! Amazing solvent. I did a quick search and can't actually find any of this in New Zealand, I may have to buy overseas which is a big pain in the ass. 
Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe I agree with all posted above. Also, you need to use lint free cloth to clean up. Cotton can leave residue. I use coffee filters. They are lint free and and readily available in most households. This is a different cooler, but the same principle applys, maybe it will help.* Wow...I could really have used this video, I did it sooooo wrong. I think I will be redoing this soon, I will be sure to take a picture so you can all cringe at my catastrophic failure :P. Like I said, I cant find that cleaner, and I lack the money at the moment to go hunting for fancy remover overseas, I think I will just have to use rubbing alcohol.
I was also thinking, if I was going to redo this, it would be good to get some high quality paste I can use in the future, I have heard many people speak of AS5, any comments?
Last edited by Tomha; 12-26-2011 at 04:04 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit & Windows 8 Developer Preview CPU Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz Motherboard Gigabyte P-67A UD4-B3 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair HX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling 3x Antec 3speed fans, Silverstone Air Penetrator Blue. Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 32mb cache Other Info NZXT Sentry 2 Fan controller
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU cooler |
12-26-2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Pro 64bit build v. 7600 SP1 |
Yes you should really clean it all off and redo. Thermal paste can be conductive as mentioned and you could short out and destroy your motherboard/cpu. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Pro 64bit build v. 7600 SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz w/ Zalman 9700 NT Heatsink Motherboard Asus P5N-e SLI Memory Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 4G Graphics Card EVGA Geforce GTX 470 Sound Card Creative X-Fi xtreme music Monitor(s) Displays Dual 24" ASUS VW246H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Alienware Mouse Logitech G5 PSU Coolermaster 650W Case Coolermaster Cosmos 1000 Cooling Coolermaster and Silverstone 120mm Hard Drives Western Digital 300G Velociraptor hosting Win 7 Pro 64bit
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