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Windows 7 - Req opinions on modest mem and vid upgrades. |
12-26-2011
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Req opinions on modest mem and vid upgrades. My computer is just beginning to get maxed on memory usage and with the addition of the second monitor on-board video is starting to show the strain. With this comp I do mostly active intraday trading which means a fair number of charting windows along with chat rooms are open at once, with that you can throw in mail and an office app or two. On down-time I occasionally view an HD movie, one thing I don't do is any sort of gaming.
Given my requirements I was thinking I could get away with simply adding 2Gb more memory and a basic HD/HDCP capable card. If this is plausible I need to ask, if I just add two more 2x1Gb sticks is it safe to go with 5x5x5x15 as my current are 4x4x4x12? Would making sure mem is set to auto or locking to the lower timings be sufficient? I also read somewhere that AMD would be much happier with 2x2Gb vs. 4x1Gb, true to the point of heeding? Is it likely I could be satisfied with a vid card as basic as this Zotac >> Newegg.com - ZOTAC ZT-84GED2M-HSL GeForce 8400 GS 256MB 32-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
Any suggestions much appreciated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
Seagate 200Gb IDE (data) Internet Speed 20 Mbps cable |
12-26-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
4x1 gb should be enough and good, just pay attention to buy the same modules so you don't have to run on false settings. is it safe to go with 5x5x5x15 as my current are 4x4x4x12?
Yes, but try to buy identical modules to the old ones
Do the monitors have vga (blue) or dvi (white) cable inputs? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
12-26-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by speedgamer01 is it safe to go with 5x5x5x15 as my current are 4x4x4x12?
Yes, but try to buy identical modules to the old ones
Do the monitors have vga (blue) or dvi (white) cable inputs? Thanks for the reply!
Yeah, I'm planning to stick with 667 modules.
Hanns-G is D-Sub/DVI/HDMI, Asus is D-Sub/DVI. The only reason I'm running the Asus in VGA mode is the on-board graphics will only allow for one digital output, another reason for upgrading to a dedicated card. As for the card, definitely pushing for fanless.
Cheers! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
Seagate 200Gb IDE (data) Internet Speed 20 Mbps cable |
12-26-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
12-26-2011
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You're killing me speedgamer01. LOL! I thought this was going to be easy but now that I look deeper the more questions arise.
I did take a look at the EVGA GT 520 and I have no doubt it would fulfill my computing requirements. Since I still have my sights set on fanless I took a peek at their other options, now the questions:
1. Considering the base specs of my system should the core speed of the video card be of concern? I mention that as I see the GT 520 is 810 MHz while all the passive cooling models are 520 MHz. My belief is that the GPU is a separate entity so possibly more can only be better?
2. I also now see many of the video cards provide a minimum PSU spec. At only 350 watts should I take their minimum guidelines as set in stone or might my 65W Regor and minimal hardware provide a bit of leeway?
3. Could I assume for my purposes even 512Mb mem is enough?
I'm feeling this this thread morphed and should now be in the video forum but...can't stop now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
Seagate 200Gb IDE (data) Internet Speed 20 Mbps cable |
12-27-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
1. Yes, higher core speed will give you more power, it is your chance to buy it with or without a fan. 810mhz is probably the 'factory clock' which nvidia recommends, you might see overclocked models which have like 850 or 900 or 950mhz core speed, I would strongly recommend not to buy any of those.
2. I'd say that you need a new psu but please find it out with a trusty calculator: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator
3. No, windows 7 needs 2gb of ram to run smooth in basic situations, but most gurus recommend 3gb (or more). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
12-27-2011
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Thanks again SG01 for your informative replies.
Think I'll shoot for the 810MHz although when targeting passive cooling cards choices do thin out in the sub $60 category. I'm sure more speed equals additional heat thus the need for fans. I'd also like to bypass 64bit for a 128 bit version but that limits choice even more.
Appreciate the calc link. A workup with an additional 2 sticks of mem and a Radeon 6450 or Nvidia Gforce GT 430 shows a power requirement of just under 350w recommended and a tad bit over 300w minimum. Considering my PSU is a bit older I even adjusted the cap aging to 45%. Can also free up another 40w by dropping two of the internal storage drives so I should be good even if I choose the GT 520.
As for the 512Mb memory reference in my last post I was speaking of video card memory not system RAM. Just curious as to the suggested requirement (512/1024) considering dual monitor, multiple windows/apps, HD video, etc.
Cheers! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
Seagate 200Gb IDE (data) Internet Speed 20 Mbps cable |
12-27-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
Yes 512mb should be enough for the card
Cheers | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
12-27-2011
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Fabulous SG01, you're tops! Cheers. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
Seagate 200Gb IDE (data) Internet Speed 20 Mbps cable |
01-11-2012
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Just a quick follow-up question about memory -- As stated I'm not a gamer but do run a lot of active charting software, Office apps and video (HD and embeded viewers) along with video screen capture apps. My question is, given my system specs is there likely be any noticeable difference between the use of 667/800/1066 memory modules? I'm leaning toward just getting a fresh 2x2Gb (or 4x2Gb) 800 or 1066 but wondering if the $25-$50 premium for the 1066 over the 800 would be worth while. Heck, is it even worth upgrading from the 667 performance wise or should I simply put the proceed towards getting to 6 gigs of 667?
Cheers! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD Regor 245 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4x-1Gb Patriot/Corsair PC2-5300 (333MHz) 4-4-4-12-2T Graphics Card Zotac GT 520 1Gb Sound Card Realtek ALC889A (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (D-Sub) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Enermax 350 (modded w/120mm AeroCool) Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe Hard Drives WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS (OS)
WD 2Gb Green - WD20EADS (data)
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