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01 Jan 2012
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#1 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Next build I made the mistake of not listening to others when I built my Sandy bridge and went i5 2500 and an H67 board.
So this time I want to build something with a bit of speed before I retire from my job - not necessairly gaming just a bit of flight sim whenever.
Have picked out main stuff (for starters):-
Coolermaster CM 690 II (plenty of room east/ west drives and fan spots)
i5 2500K
Corsair HX 650 G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM (2x4GB) DDR3 Seagate Barracuda 500GB ST500DM002 (going to clone to a 1TB after install) Optical I have already - Lite on (change to Blu ray after) Windows 7 Premium But board I cannot make my mind up and after two Gigabyte's and no hassles I am inclined to stay with them with a Z68 chipset. Have narrowed them down to these but as there are so many and the specs just bemuse me would like an opinion from the folks in the know. Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 Motherboard [GA-Z68AP-D3] - $139.00 : PC Case Gear Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 Motherboard [GA-Z68X-UD3-B3] - $135.00 : PC Case Gear Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-D3 Motherboard [GA-Z68XP-D3] - $139.00 : PC Case Gear Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Motherboard [GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3] - $175.00 : PC Case Gear << am inclined to go with this one.
Thoughts appreciated
Last edited by ICit2lol; 01 Jan 2012 at 09:03 PM..
Reason: Addition
| My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
01 Jan 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Unless you overclock the 2500K, why bother with the upgrade??
It's odd that you would think your original purchase was a mistake.
If you are going to overclock, I wouldn't expect much difference between any of the Z68 Gigabyte boards--they differ in features.
If you are going to that much trouble, I'd look at an SSD if I was interested in "speed"---unless you spend your time benchmarking or doing some particular task all day long that would actually take advantage of a significantly overclocked CPU.
Or the very latest Intel processors, if you want to spend a few weeks right on the cutting edge---assuming money is no object. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 Jan 2012
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#3 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Thanks ignazatsonic Well I was just thinking a of making one that was a bit speedier and it is a bit of a whim to do something like that after working on my son's gamer - although I must admit it isn't as quick as this machine.
I think you're right mate I probably need to come down to earth a bit and I agree that getting the latest is foolish as they are upgrading willy nilly eh? Plus money -not that I am rolling in it and of little consequence to me - friends are of more importance - I would have been prepared to lay out to get this stuff.
I was perhaps a little blinkered by the RAM speed and the O/Cing of the CPU to be absolutely honest, and perhaps a tad old and going soft in the head
Hum perhaps that SSD might be something to play around with after all
Thanks again for getting me back on the level! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
01 Jan 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
A person could no doubt make a good case for upgrading CPUs every 6 months--it's just a matter of how much money you have to burn and how much trouble you are willing to undertake.
I don't know what you do with a PC--if you make a living fiddling with video files, you can probably use every bit of CPU power you can get. A stronger CPU would put money in your pocket at a higher rate.
If, on the other hand, you spend your time on more mundane stuff, you may just have a good dose of upgrade-itis. It's a well-documented disease for which you can only pray for remission---there is no cure. You might get better, but you will never get well. I've got it myself---in my case, it becomes unbearable every 3 or 4 years and I have to open my wallet to beat it back into remission.
Try to lay down until the feeling goes away.
If you absolutely can't help yourself, you can get an SSD for the price of those Gigabyte boards that are making eyes at you. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 Jan 2012
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#5 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Thanks iggy I know where you are coming from mate - no I have three 7 machines a Vista and an older XP - the latter both I have rejuvenated with better CPU's and RAM and a couple of Frankensteins I am working on - just tryin to keep dementia, DT's, and boredom from the door LOL!!
Oh and plenty of fixes for friends | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
03 Jan 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
True Ignatz, upgrade-itis is a real concern and can spread quickly. How do you avoid it for 3-4 years?
I agree John, get a SSD and you'll be a-flying. 
I looked at the boards and this one http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...ducts_id=18792 is the way I'd go. They all seem fairly equal, with the PCIeX16 slots and audio, the differences. This also has two USB 3.0 headers on the board for up to 4 USB 3.0 ports in a front panel.
Last edited by Britton30; 03 Jan 2012 at 01:32 PM..
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
03 Jan 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I agree with everyone above. An SSD is the most noticeable upgrade you can do to a computer. And if you have troubles, there are quite a few experts here to help you out. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
03 Jan 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 64bit home premium UK |
I dont upgrade as often as I used to. The extra power that comes from an upgrade needs to match the money spent.
So if you only get a 20% increase in power is it worth spending alot of money or waiting a year? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built OS Windows 7 64bit home premium CPU I5 3570K Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-DS3H Memory 4 x 4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 1600 Mhz Graphics Card Gigabyte Geforce 660 TI Sound Card creative x-fi Monitor(s) Displays Primary CiBox 22" Widescreen LCD ,Secondary Dell 22" Widescr Screen Resolution Both 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Trust ds-3200 Wireless keyboard and mouse Mouse Trust ds-3200 Wireless keyboard and mouse PSU Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Complient PSU Case Antec 900 Ultimate Gaming Case Cooling 3xfront 1xside 1xrear blue fan, 1 200mm blue top fan 1 Hard Drives 2 x 500G HD (SATA) 1 x 2 TB USB Internet Speed 288 / 4000 Other Info Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
Trust Graphics Tablet |
03 Jan 2012
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#9 | | |
My gaming rig is 2.5 years old, runs a core 2 quad with an ssd and a new nvidia gtx 570 and it runs bf3 great at high grfx at 1920x1080. It doesn't always have to be the newest to still be very speedy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
03 Jan 2012
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#10 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 True Ignatz, upgrade-itis is a real concern and can spread quickly. How do you avoid it for 3-4 years?
I agree John, get a SSD and you'll be a-flying. 
I looked at the boards and this one Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 Motherboard [GA-Z68X-UD3-B3] - $135.00 : PC Case Gear is the way I'd go. They all seem fairly equal, with the PCIeX16 slots and audio, the differences. This also has two USB 3.0 headers on the board for up to 4 USB 3.0 ports in a front panel.
Thanks everyone I have been doing some reading and yep the SSD is probably going to cost me a lot less and get me the speed now it's down to getting the right brand, and say a 120GB one.
By the by I also read that Z68 boards are getting to be old hat now and one designated Z79? - without looking at the mag again is the next gen then 2011 but the price dear me the prices. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:09 PM. | |