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Windows 7: Ivy Bridge 3570k Vs Sandy Bridge 2500k

04 Jan 2012   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 
Ivy Bridge 3570k Vs Sandy Bridge 2500k

1st question:

Well ive heard that Ivy bridge boost 20% performance and huge in GPU.

I dont need Built in GPU.

Ivy has integrated USB3.0, PCI 3.0 and thunderbird.

Is it really worth to wait for the new Ivy Bridge i5 3570k? versus i5 2500k?


I have a lesson for the previous CPU. Bought 3 computer Socket 1156 after 2 months of release!

The result? i always got a BSOD.



The Sandy bridge 1st release has a problem also with the chipset.

If i remember they fix after 2 weeks with the new B3 design.



Now guys because im really excited on Ivy bridge.

The release date is April 08, 2012

What can you say? is it really safe buying for only a 1 month old after the release?

Lets say i wait to buy on May 01, 2012?.



2nd question:

Amd is creating a PCI 3.0 Hd 7 Series.

What do you think guy is their a PCI 3.0 videocard not expensive? max of 100$?


I need you opinion and knowledge.

Thanks!

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04 Jan 2012   #2

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Depends on how you look at it.
If your not interested in the On-Die GPU, IB seems to really only offer PCI-e 3.0 and a slight clock for clock bump over SB.

In regards to PCI 3.0, you must consider no current GPU can saturate a x16 slot, and most cant even stuarate a 2.0 slot at x8. Some of the Single card dual GPUs can exceed x8, but still cant use the full x16.

So, even the first few generations of 3.0 cards will not be bottlenecked by a 2.0 slot at all. By the time they do, you'll likely be be in need of a complete upgrade anyway.


Bottom line, I wouldn't put to much worry into 3.0 at this point. It will be nice to have .. sure. But in reality, it may not actually be usefull for a long time yet.


However, April is not that far away.
If you are building new, and do not need it right now .. I'd just wait. Why not?
Newer tech is a good idea, especially when so close, as long as you arent having major issues currently.



However, if your current machine is struggling to play your games and you are in bad need to upgrade soon ... a SB build would not be a bad investment, and will server you well for a good while.

Also, if you do decide to go ahead and go with a SB P67/z68 build now ... just avoid the boards that use a NF200 Chip. The reason is, a bios upgrade will allow them to use IB CPUs later.
IB CPU means PCI 3.0 support.

So long as your PCIX lanes are not being split and run through a NF200, PCI 3.0 support on the z68/P67 should work. At least for a Single GPU, and possibly dual GPUS if those lanes are run directly to the CPU.
That was my big reason for going with the board I got when I was building.



Either way you decide to go will be a good choice. SB isn't going to struggle anytime soon.
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04 Jan 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Thanks for the quick reply.

Do Sandy bridge i5 2500k support USB 3.0 port?
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04 Jan 2012   #4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

--EDIT-- Misread.

Alot of the USB 3.0 support will depend on the motherboard itself.
As far as Im aware, SB CPUs do not support USB 3 natively, but is implemented on the Motherboards side.


IB supposedly will have native USB 3.0 support.


To be clear, I am refering to the Chipsets.

So, a P67 with Bios update and IB CPU, will not have USB3.0 support natively. It will still be implented on the motherbaord though.
A IB CPU on the new Motherbaords with the new chipset, should have.
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04 Jan 2012   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

Firstly I've bridge will be very expensive to adopt into, and over kill at best. We don't need faster CPU's or ones with more cores as thing don't make use of them. Unless your into high end real time HD video editing, or spend your entire day encoding or converting media formatts you'll be wasting money.

To your 1156 point, if you had so many BSOD then I'd doubt it was cpu related, could be something simple like gpu drivers or more complex like ram failings. I don't then I've ever had to replace a cpu for people because of BSOD.

Again buying into the ATI 7 series will be expensive and pointless if you don't plan on getting a high end card, as lower end models will just be rebrands of current models with a higher price tag.

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04 Jan 2012   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Sory but im not good in english.

Can you give me simple answer.

Example:

Asus P8Z68-V LE
ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS P8Z68-V LE

This mobo support USB 3.0 with the processor of sandy bridge.

So what happen with the USB 3.0?


I know ivy bridge fully support USB 3.0.


I cant really understand on Sandy bridge with a motherboard that has USB 3.0?
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04 Jan 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

@ badger906,

you are correct about the socket 1156.

TO tell you the truth socket 1156 CPU i3 + mobo + VC has a problem on windos xp.



But i dont want to talk about it because its past already

I need now Ivy bridge 3570k and sandy bridge i5 2500k opinion
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04 Jan 2012   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

Yes the p8z68 LE motherboard has 2 USB 3.0 on the rear and 1 front panel header for further expansion.

I have that motherboard in one of my computers.

Most modern boards support USB 3.0 but are not intel powered, its a 3rd party controller, intel are to busy working on thunderbolt instead.

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04 Jan 2012   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

ASUS is using the ASMedia USB 3.0 controller to allow the use of USB 3.0 it looks like.

Other motherboards may use Marvell or other controllers.


These are add chips/controllers that manufactures add to the board to allow USB 3.0.
It is not part of the Intel Chipset.

Another example of these add ons would be:
The Intel chipset will support (2)SATA 3 ports, and (4) SATA 2 ports.

So if you see a Motherboard advertising (4) SATA 3 ports and (4) SATA 2 ports, 2 of those SATA 3s are from a secondary controller or add on chip.
Such as a Marvell chip.
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04 Jan 2012   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Your saying that its not from chipset but from the motherboard add ons only?

So these board fully support P8Z68-V LE USB 3.0 port without problems on sandy bridge i5 2500k?
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