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Windows 7: Can HP charger be used for Gateway laptop?

17 Jan 2012   #11
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jloc View Post
This is just a little fact about Dell; all Dell power supplies have a small microchip inside them to let the laptop know that it's an official Dell charger. If you use a third party charger (i.e, one from Hong Kong on Ebay), the processor speed is halfed... permanently. There is absolutely no way to get your processor back up to full speed, even Dell support wont repair/replace it as it isn't faulty, it's intentional.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Some Dell's do in the UK.


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17 Jan 2012   #12
DeaconFrost

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Some Dell's do in the UK.
Do you have a link to show this? I've never heard such a wild claim about them, and it certainly isn't the case over here.

Some of them have a chip that identifies them as a legit charger, because I've seen some BIOSes correctly identify them, in terms of wattage, and say "unknown" with a generic...but to think it permanently cuts the speed of the processor....even after removing the charger and using a legit one....that would be grounds for a major class action lawsuit.
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17 Jan 2012   #13
pebbly

win 7 ultimate32bit, Win8.1pro wmc 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jloc View Post
This is just a little fact about Dell; all Dell power supplies have a small microchip inside them to let the laptop know that it's an official Dell charger. If you use a third party charger (i.e, one from Hong Kong on Ebay), the processor speed is halfed... permanently. There is absolutely no way to get your processor back up to full speed, even Dell support wont repair/replace it as it isn't faulty, it's intentional.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Some Dell's do in the UK.
It will not alter the speed of the CPU but it (the OEM charger) have a detrimental effect on battery life its all to do with the 3rd sensing wire that dell use which the cheap foreign makers omit
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17 Jan 2012   #14
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

That I will believe, because I've noticed that the generic chargers take longer to fully charge a laptop than the original or Dell chargers would do. I have two old Inspirons in my family, and both are using generic chargers because the person wanted to get cheaper chargers...since these weren't primary machines. Both work fine, and at full speed, they just take longer to charge up.
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17 Jan 2012   #15
pebbly

win 7 ultimate32bit, Win8.1pro wmc 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Some Dell's do in the UK.
Do you have a link to show this? I've never heard such a wild claim about them, and it certainly isn't the case over here.

Some of them have a chip that identifies them as a legit charger, because I've seen some BIOSes correctly identify them, in terms of wattage, and say "unknown" with a generic...but to think it permanently cuts the speed of the processor....even after removing the charger and using a legit one....that would be grounds for a major class action lawsuit.
Have a read here Dell laptops reject third-party batteries and AC adapters/chargers. Hardware vendor lock-in? Random musings from a computer business owner.
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17 Jan 2012   #16
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Some Dell's do in the UK.
It will not alter the speed of the CPU but it (the OEM charger) have a detrimental effect on battery life its all to do with the 3rd sensing wire that dell use which the cheap foreign makers omit
If you use a non Dell, on a Dell with the BIOS check, it will power the Notebook but not charge the battery.
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17 Jan 2012   #17
gregrocker

 

This does not involve Dells. We already checked my other roommate's Dell chargers and they don't fit.

He has no notebook battery, says it's too heavy to carry from Ukraine.

Kathryn I'm not sure what third wire you want me to check?

Seems if his bulky laptop uses a charger with more voltage and amperage, then using mine could burn it out faster. Is this logical?
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17 Jan 2012   #18
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Fortunately my other roommate's Dell chargers don't fit.

He's only here for 3 more days and hasn't the cash to buy a new one or the shipping time to wait for one off eBay.

The specs I find for replacement chargers for his Gateway show 19v, 4+ amps.

The specs I find for my laptop charger show 18.5v, 3.2 amps.

Is this enough to burn out my charger if he uses it?
Missed the above.
+ or - 0.5v is OK.
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17 Jan 2012   #19
gregrocker

 

Thanks Ray. Since I can replace my charger for $5 on Amazon, I'll probably let him use it while I'm out unless someone knows another reason it's inadvisable.
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17 Jan 2012   #20
jloc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jloc View Post
This is just a little fact about Dell; all Dell power supplies have a small microchip inside them to let the laptop know that it's an official Dell charger. If you use a third party charger (i.e, one from Hong Kong on Ebay), the processor speed is halfed... permanently. There is absolutely no way to get your processor back up to full speed, even Dell support wont repair/replace it as it isn't faulty, it's intentional.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jloc View Post
This is just a little fact about Dell; all Dell power supplies have a small microchip inside them to let the laptop know that it's an official Dell charger. If you use a third party charger (i.e, one from Hong Kong on Ebay), the processor speed is halfed... permanently. There is absolutely no way to get your processor back up to full speed, even Dell support wont repair/replace it as it isn't faulty, it's intentional.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Some Dell's do in the UK.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Some Dell's do in the UK.
Do you have a link to show this? I've never heard such a wild claim about them, and it certainly isn't the case over here.

Some of them have a chip that identifies them as a legit charger, because I've seen some BIOSes correctly identify them, in terms of wattage, and say "unknown" with a generic...but to think it permanently cuts the speed of the processor....even after removing the charger and using a legit one....that would be grounds for a major class action lawsuit.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read online, and is absolutely untrue. I can say from my own personal experience that this is completely false....with their home and business lines.
Some Dell's do in the UK.
It will not alter the speed of the CPU but it (the OEM charger) have a detrimental effect on battery life its all to do with the 3rd sensing wire that dell use which the cheap foreign makers omit
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
That I will believe, because I've noticed that the generic chargers take longer to fully charge a laptop than the original or Dell chargers would do. I have two old Inspirons in my family, and both are using generic chargers because the person wanted to get cheaper chargers...since these weren't primary machines. Both work fine, and at full speed, they just take longer to charge up.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Some Dell's do in the UK.
Do you have a link to show this? I've never heard such a wild claim about them, and it certainly isn't the case over here.

Some of them have a chip that identifies them as a legit charger, because I've seen some BIOSes correctly identify them, in terms of wattage, and say "unknown" with a generic...but to think it permanently cuts the speed of the processor....even after removing the charger and using a legit one....that would be grounds for a major class action lawsuit.
Have a read here Dell laptops reject third-party batteries and AC adapters/chargers. Hardware vendor lock-in? Random musings from a computer business owner.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post

Some Dell's do in the UK.
It will not alter the speed of the CPU but it (the OEM charger) have a detrimental effect on battery life its all to do with the 3rd sensing wire that dell use which the cheap foreign makers omit
If you use a non Dell, on a Dell with the BIOS check, it will power the Notebook but not charge the battery.

Sorry, I was wrong. Fake Dell chargers which do not contain the chip will not charge your laptop, just power it. I had to replace my sisters power supply and her battery because the knock off charger had damaged it beyond repair. Sorry for my mistake.
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