| Windows 7: Win 7 won't start with 4+ GB RAM |
15 Aug 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 64-bit (Build 7100) |
Win 7 won't start with 4+ GB RAM I have a computer that I built in 2007, with 2x1GB of 533MHz RAM, and I installed Windows 7 x64 RC Build 7100 on it a month or two ago. Last week I bought 2x2GB PC8500 RAM because I was long overdue for an upgrade.
I installed the new 4GB and removed the old slower 2GB, and booted up to find the Windows 7 boot screen, then everything went blank, including the keyboard LEDs, and the computer is completely unresponsive. I tried running it with one new 2GB stick and it ran fine, so i tested the other stick thinking i might have a dud, but again windows ran fine. I further tested the memory in separate bays so that it ran single channel instead of dual channel, but still nothing. The Bios always detects the memory amount correctly in setup and when booting the computer, but windows seems to hang with any setup with 4+ GB RAM. My board is good for 8GB RAM. I also reset the bios settings to default as was suggested to me, but still nothing.
I'm probably overlooking something, but for now I'm stumped. I'm pretty sure the x64 version should support 4GB. Any suggestions? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Digital Van Model #00-000-000001 OS Windows 7 64-bit (Build 7100) CPU AMD Athlon X2 4400+ Motherboard Asus M2A-VM Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX 2GB PC2-8500 DDR2 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 8600 GT Sound Card integrated Realtek HD-Audio Monitor(s) Displays 20" Acer LCD Panel Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard mid-90's Dell keyboard Mouse Kensington PocketMouse Pro Wireless PSU 500 Watt PSU from an old Dell Case Mid-90's Dell tower that fought a jigsaw Cooling Air cooled, sits next to the A/C vent Hard Drives old Hyundai something or other - Sata 250GB 7200 RPM
Seagate Barracuda - Sata 1TB 7200 RPM
Too Many Externals to list totaling 1.7TB Internet Speed 10M/1M Other Info Dualboots Windows and Ubuntu |
15 Aug 2009
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System specs would really help. Please post them under User CP.
Nonetheless - you might try bumping your northbridge voltage up one notch. (credit to Chev65). | My System Specs | | |
15 Aug 2009
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i'm wondering if it's a windows problem at all.
when exactly in the boot sequence does the hang occur? ie do you see the animation?
have you tried booting into another os, using a linux livecd for example? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number mickey megabyte 1234 OS ultimate 64 sp1 CPU i5 2500K 3.3@4.2GHz Motherboard MSI P67A-GD53 Memory 8 gigs GSkill Ripjaws 1600 Graphics Card amd hd6950 Sound Card creative x-fi gamer Monitor(s) Displays samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard saitek eclipse ii Mouse logitech g3 PSU antec 550 Case antec three hundred Cooling i'm a cooling fan Hard Drives ocz vertex 2e 60 gig, samsung f3 1tb, buffalo 2tb ext Internet Speed about 4 Mbps Other Info i love win7 |
15 Aug 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |

Quote: Originally Posted by Digital Van I have a computer that I built in 2007, with 2x1GB of 533MHz RAM, and I installed Windows 7 x64 RC Build 7100 on it a month or two ago. Last week I bought 2x2GB PC8500 RAM because I was long overdue for an upgrade.
I installed the new 4GB and removed the old slower 2GB, and booted up to find the Windows 7 boot screen, then everything went blank, including the keyboard LEDs, and the computer is completely unresponsive. I tried running it with one new 2GB stick and it ran fine, so i tested the other stick thinking i might have a dud, but again windows ran fine. I further tested the memory in separate bays so that it ran single channel instead of dual channel, but still nothing. The Bios always detects the memory amount correctly in setup and when booting the computer, but windows seems to hang with any setup with 4+ GB RAM. My board is good for 8GB RAM. I also reset the bios settings to default as was suggested to me, but still nothing.
I'm probably overlooking something, but for now I'm stumped. I'm pretty sure the x64 version should support 4GB. Any suggestions? I'm not sure if you can get to your bios settings or not but... if you can get at the memory settings it sometimes helps to set the memory voltage to manufacture specs, you might want to have a look at the memory timings also to make sure they are right.
And yes, Antman is correct, with 4GB it sometimes takes a bit more northbridge voltage to get stable. But that isn't really my idea like he claims. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
15 Aug 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 ...But that isn't really my idea like he claims. More of a nod. | My System Specs | | |
15 Aug 2009
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I've installed Windows 7 on more than 6 different computer builds all with 4GB or 8GB of RAM and all of them installed just fine. Intel mobos, gigabyte mobos, and asus mobos...g.skill ram, kingston ram, corsair ram and mushkin. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
15 Aug 2009
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There seems to be a wide range of issues in Win 7 that all have power considerations in common. | My System Specs | | |
15 Aug 2009
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2x2GB modules shouldn't need a NB volt boost. It's a different story with all 4 dimm slots filled though.
As chev65 mentioned, input the ram manufacturers specs for voltage and timings in the BIOS manually and then run memtest86+ to check for any errors. Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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16 Aug 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 64-bit (Build 7100) |
Sorry, was out for a bit, but as far as memory voltage, my bios settings have a max of 2.1V and the memory itself is labeled 2.3V ... also a full length memtest with all 6GB installed ran without issue, and there was nothing wrong. As far as memory timing, i was disappointed to find my bios maxes at 800MHz (i suspect this is hardware limited, not software), though it is PC-8500 DDR2.
Antman: I'm not sure if the Memory Voltage = the Northbridge voltage, I'm not sure what exactly the northbridge and southbridge connect, I'm more of a software guy than a hardware guy. I know there are four voltage settings aside from the memory, but i couldn't tell you what did what, so I've never messed with them... I'm not exactly a seasoned veteran of computer building, i pretty much know where to plug what and that my PSU is probably stressed by my system.
I'm getting as far as the "Windows is starting..." screen with the animation and it goes to black, which it normally does before the mouse pointer appears a few seconds later, but the system hangs on that black screen instead.
As far as Specs:
AMD Athlon X2 4200+ 2.2GHz
Asus M2A-VM motherboard
NVidia 8600GT 256MB gpu memory 768MB shared system memory
Kingston 2x2GB DDR2 PC-8500 (new ram)
Buffalo Select 2x1GB DDR2 PC-5300 (old ram)
I'm probably going to be getting a new motherboard soon, so for now I'll just run with 2GB of the new ram. Ubuntu and DamnSmallLinux both detect and use all 6GB when I have them in, so I know its something with Windows 7 that is probably having driver or compatibility problems with my setup.
Edit: I bought the ram as two individually packaged single 2GB sticks, I don't know if that is any different than a 2x2GB "kit", but even so when the ram was placed so that it ran two individual single channels and as one dual channel set, or even with the 2x1GB set and 1 of the 2GB modules, windows never got passed that screen unless I had 3GB or less installed. Dunno if that is relevant, but I guess its good to say. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Digital Van Model #00-000-000001 OS Windows 7 64-bit (Build 7100) CPU AMD Athlon X2 4400+ Motherboard Asus M2A-VM Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX 2GB PC2-8500 DDR2 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 8600 GT Sound Card integrated Realtek HD-Audio Monitor(s) Displays 20" Acer LCD Panel Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard mid-90's Dell keyboard Mouse Kensington PocketMouse Pro Wireless PSU 500 Watt PSU from an old Dell Case Mid-90's Dell tower that fought a jigsaw Cooling Air cooled, sits next to the A/C vent Hard Drives old Hyundai something or other - Sata 250GB 7200 RPM
Seagate Barracuda - Sata 1TB 7200 RPM
Too Many Externals to list totaling 1.7TB Internet Speed 10M/1M Other Info Dualboots Windows and Ubuntu |
16 Aug 2009
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Had the same problem when upgrading my memory; so I put my installation disc in and ran repair (just to see if that would do anything). It worked. Now not saying it will work for your system, however, what have you got to loose. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
1 - 2.5" 500 USB External HDD
1 -1 Tb USB External HDD Internet Speed 10 Mbit (realistically 500 Kbit - 1.2 Mbit) Other Info Speakers - Bose Desktop (Excellent Sound)
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