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Windows 7 - Hard to live without a HDD |
01-24-2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro |
Hard to live without a HDD So I put in my SSD drive and it's fast and I have 2 external hard drives. So I'm on the phone and need some info from my data that is stored on my external WD 2TB which is a USB 3 hard drive and I have to wait 15 seconds for that thing to wind up in order for me to see my data and in the meantime I'm stalling for time. Once I see my data I can retrieve it in less than 5 second. So now I have to go back and install a HDD for my data so I will only have to wait 1 second instead of 15 and I’ll just put my WD 2 TB drive as a backup and backup my date when I have 15 seconds to spare. Why does it take my external drive so long for me to have access to it. Has anyone else experience this?
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro CPU AMD 955 Memory 4 gigs - 1333 Graphics Card 5750 Monitor(s) Displays i-inc 28" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Hard Drives 2 SATA2 750 GB - 1 SATA2 1TB - 1 SATA3 1TB - 1 USB3 2TB - 1 USB3 500 GB, SSD 60 GB Internet Speed 7 Megs |
01-24-2012
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I believe (from doing some USB traces) that upon mounting an external drive, the System Volume Information folder is read/accessed. There's also all the power PnP stuff, etc., too. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-24-2012
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Check the power management options set for the USB Hub(s) in Device Manager. Windows could be turning off the Hub to save power if the box is checked. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
01-25-2012
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You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
01-25-2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
Or, it could be you are like me. I got used to the SSD and hard drives seem to take forever. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
01-25-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums. Hate to disagree, but my WD 2TB EARS Green has faster read access than my 1TB WDC Black drive. 125 MB/s vs 110 MB/s and it only takes 10s to spin up (eSATA). It is dependent not only on the rpm, but the density of the drive. more bits crammed into the same space read at the same rpm will necessarily have a faster MB/s.
Last edited by GeneO; 01-25-2012 at 08:57 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
01-25-2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Maybe I'm confused as to what the problem might be, but what you see is actually typical and normal. If you want the data ready quickly at anytime, use an internal drive for storage, and an external for backup. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
01-25-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere You can't expect the WD green drives they put in these usb externals to run with real HDD's. Get a 7200 rpm with at least 32 mb of cache or better is 64 mb and 10,000 rpm but now your're talking large sums. IIRC, the amount of time for me to take a Windows 7 System Image of my C drive (15Gig of used space) is the same for an internal 7200 RPM HDD as it is for an external USB HDD (5400? or 7200? - it's an Iomega HDD). I believe the USB2 interface is limiting enough that a 7200 RPM drive will be no faster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-25-2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro |

Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz Check the power management options set for the USB Hub(s) in Device Manager. Windows could be turning off the Hub to save power if the box is checked. I think this could be the problem so I went into device manager and I had 9 USB root hubs and I uncheck the box on all of them and it looks like my drives are normal. Thanks | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 RC1, Vista Ultimate, XP Pro CPU AMD 955 Memory 4 gigs - 1333 Graphics Card 5750 Monitor(s) Displays i-inc 28" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Hard Drives 2 SATA2 750 GB - 1 SATA2 1TB - 1 SATA3 1TB - 1 USB3 2TB - 1 USB3 500 GB, SSD 60 GB Internet Speed 7 Megs |
01-25-2012
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Great! Thanks for the follow-up. If all goes well, mark the thread Solved. It may help someone else having the same problem in the future. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable Hard to live without a HDD problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:18 PM. |  |