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Windows 7 - Suggestions for Steps Setting Up My new hardware (Upgrading) |
01-27-2012
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Suggestions for Steps Setting Up My new hardware (Upgrading) If you will look at my system specks you will see what my present system consist of. My plans are to replace my mobo with a Z68. Add 120 gb SSD. Up my memory to 16 gb's. Upgrade my video card (I probably will not go crossfire or SLI). Add higher wattage PSU. Also buy couple more HD's.
Here is where I need help. I have never setup an SSD for quick sync, I have never setup a RAID configuration. I am presently researching exactly what Brand and Models of Hardware I want.
Before anyone asks I will explain why I am doing this. I am a student in computer science about one more semester away from associates degree. My needs with this system is to learn more by doing. I want to experiment with overclocking both ram and cpu. This is what I simply want to buy and do. I don't want to have many questions unanswered while I am rebuilding my system to minimize issues with the setup process. If you have suggestions or know of some links that will explain step by step what to do first to last I would appreciate it.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC 4.0 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co. - Model GA-Z68X-UD5-B3 Memory G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 Monitor(s) Displays HP 2509b 25 inch Screen Resolution 1920x1080 PSU CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 (Modular) Case CASE ZALMAN | Z9 R Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex III 120 GB
HDD 1.5T|HITACHI 7K3000 Other Info I keep my CPU at 4.0 Ghz. Could easily go higher but I have no need to. |
01-28-2012
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Just a hint, but usually the more RAM you have the tougher overclocking becomes. Unless you actually have a need for 16GB of RAM, I would most likely skip it. As a systems admin that works at the computer all day long and runs concurrent virtual machines, I've not found a need yet to run more than 8GB of RAM on any of my PC's. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
01-28-2012
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I would not use RAID as it confers little advantage except in the storage of huge (video) files across multiple HD's. It is not redundant so if you lose one HD you lose them both, so it's much smarter to use the second HD for file and image backup.
Windows 7 does not much like RAID so we see lots of installation problems here solved by not RAIDing.
What are they teaching you in your classes about RAID's advantages and the use of RAID in Windows 7? | My System Specs | | |
01-28-2012
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I must say that in class I have learned a lot and I have not learned much. That sound contradictory I know but, that is how I feel. About RAID the only mention was a definition and a basic idea that with RAID data can be sent from one hard drive while data is received from another. Hence more speed.
That about sums it up, everything else I have learned has been from researching on the Internet. I will tell you I am 52 years old and going back to school at a local college. I am somewhat disappointed in the amount of new information I am learning. 75% of what they are teaching is already outdated. I do understand why. By the time new technology becomes standardized the textbooks are still being written. By the time the textbooks are printed many topics are old school. But it is what it is.
I will adopt your suggestion to forgo the RAID if it could lead to issues with Windows 7 as this will be my personal machine but, that still means that if asked to setup a RAID system for someone I will have no experience, which is why I was going to do it in the first place. I also have no personal need to overclock anything I just want to play with it and learn. I am trying to gain some hands on experience even if it's not much.
I also will consider the other suggestion to keep the ram to 8GB.
If any others reading these posts would like to add or suggest please do. Thank you for your responses so far. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC 4.0 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co. - Model GA-Z68X-UD5-B3 Memory G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 Monitor(s) Displays HP 2509b 25 inch Screen Resolution 1920x1080 PSU CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 (Modular) Case CASE ZALMAN | Z9 R Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex III 120 GB
HDD 1.5T|HITACHI 7K3000 Other Info I keep my CPU at 4.0 Ghz. Could easily go higher but I have no need to. |
01-28-2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
If you are doing this for an experiment, it would not hurt to set up a raid array. I just wouldn't put anything on it, I wasn't willing to lose. Certainly not my OS. But, you could learn how to set one up and how they operate. When you get ready many of us here can tell you how to set up an SSD, or pick a graphics card. Look at the pros and cons between a P67 board and a Z68 board. Both will overclock well, but the advantages of the Z68 are only important if you will use them. Based on reviews, the P67 boards seem more stable than the Z68, and are cheaper. That's just my observations. Of all the upgrades you have discussed, the SSD will be the most noticeable and most immediate improvement. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
01-28-2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe If you are doing this for an experiment, it would not hurt to set up a raid array. Hi,
Experimenting is good, but as Steve says be mindful of having your data backed up elsewhere in case the experiments go bad. You might also like to play around with a RAID1 configuration (which is good for backups) if you have the HDD's (minimum of 2) - its the same procedure as setting up a RAID0.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
01-28-2012
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#8 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
Like you, I am a 52-year-old who went back to school. My user title refers to the fact that I am one semester hour shy of Senior status. One thing I would highly recommend (if you have not already done so) is to check out https://www.dreamspark.com/ . If your school is participating you can get enough free stuff to keep you busy for years. The Windows Server 2008 R2 I have listed in "My System Specs" is a very expensive piece of software I expect to be using in the business world in another year or so: Shop now - Microsoft Store Online
I get to practice on it now and it didn't cost me a cent. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
01-28-2012
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They do participate in DreamSpark, I got Web Expressions free.
Another post referred to Z68 vs P67. I do a lot of video editing and converting so I would like to be able to use the graphics engine on the CPU, I have read it is better for video than a video card. My H67 board I have now has a video card and it disables the graphics engine on my CPU. I play some games and love great graphics. My understanding is that the Z68 will use the video card for games and switch to CPU for video editing. However I am not happy to hear the Z68 isn't as stable. I am hoping that the manual that comes with the mobo will be straight forward. I am leading toward a Gigabyte Z68 (UD4 or UD5). But may at this point change my mind. I will probably start ordering components Tuesday.
Thank you guys for your imput. If I had researched these facts before when I built this system I would have never ordered a H67 and for that matter a microATX form factor with only 2 memory slots either. At that time all I new was that I had chosen i7 2600k and had to have a 1155 socket. So we live and learn. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC 4.0 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co. - Model GA-Z68X-UD5-B3 Memory G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 Monitor(s) Displays HP 2509b 25 inch Screen Resolution 1920x1080 PSU CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 (Modular) Case CASE ZALMAN | Z9 R Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives SSD OCZ Vertex III 120 GB
HDD 1.5T|HITACHI 7K3000 Other Info I keep my CPU at 4.0 Ghz. Could easily go higher but I have no need to. |
01-29-2012
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#10 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
I'm no expert and have no experience with the P67 boards. My new computer (see "My System Specs" below) is on an ASUS Z68 board and has been rock solid. There may be a big difference from brand to brand, though. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable Suggestions for Steps Setting Up My new hardware (Upgrading) problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:22 PM. |  |