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Windows 7 - Which Hard Drive? |
02-04-2012
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#1 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
Which Hard Drive? I'm considering adding a new hard drive or two to my storage setup. Right now I'm using a pair of 1TB Seagate drives which have been quite reliable. They are identical ST31000528AS SATA II drives. I have another comparable 1TB drive on my second computer which serves as an extra layer of backup protection.
Both of the Seagates are about 85% full (as is the third Seagate on the spare computer), and while I would like to wait until HD prices get a little saner, industry scuttlebutt says that may be another year from now and I doubt I'll be able to wait that long.
Since the drives I'm looking to add will be storage only, high performance is not absolutely necessary, though I would like to stay away from anything which will take forever to get going. I also don't see a huge price difference between 1TB and 2TB drives right now and would prefer to go for the larger size to avoid filling all my SATA ports or having to use the (ugh) Marvell controller.
I'm looking at these two - any thoughts would be much appreciated: Micro Center - Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB 5,900RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST2000DL003 - OEM 016543 Micro Center - Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD20EARX - OEM 017376
There is only a $5 difference between them, so any difference in performance, quality and reliability would swing the choice one way or the other. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
02-04-2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
I don't know if you can find it now, but I have had good luck with the Samsung HD103SJ a 1TB drive and I also have a 1.5TB. They are very reliable and faster than the Seagate or Wstern Digital 6Gb/s drives. Most here will disagree with me, but of those 2 I would go with the Seagate. With all the bad rep they have, I've used them for years and never had a problem. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
02-04-2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Prof:
Like Essenbe, I have a Samsung 103 SJ 1 TB as primary storage. Very fast for a spinner, no issues at all.
I use a WD 1.5 Green as backup storage and have had no problems with it either. It spins circa 5400 rpm, but frankly I've never said "geez, I wish that thing was faster". The benchmarks I did on it indicated it was faster than the typical 7200 rpm drives of a slightly earlier generation anyway.
I've also owned Seagates with no issues.
I've never had a hard drive fail--if I had, I'd naturally lean against that brand for a long time.
I've come to the conclusion that with occasional exceptions due to outright bad design, it doesn't much matter and you aren't likely to notice differences---though of course you do need a bit of luck to avoid the DOA or early failure duds that all manufacturers put out.
You could likely run down online tests of those 2 candidates if necessary, but I don't know how that would tell you anything about reliability. That's a crap shoot. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
02-04-2012
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I've had every brand die on me over the years, except Samsung.
I haven't owned the Samsungs long enough though, less than a year on the pair I have.
But I love them so far, really fast for a green drive, pretty quiet, and run cool
Seagates have died the most on me, but that is because we only used Seagates back in the mid to late 90's, and we used them till they failed, then replaced them with more Seagates. The Amiga 4000 we used had 22 drives attached to it, 20 SCSI drives and 2 IDE drives and was used for Non-Linear Video editing.
I had a stack of about a dozen dead Seagates on my shelf, 9 and 18GB drives. they all lasted past their 5 year warranty so we got our moneys worth out of them.
A few Quantums died on me, as well as Maxtors, and Micropolis, bunch of IBM Deathstars (Hitachi bought the IBM stuff so I am still leery of Hitachi), a dozen or so WD's have also died on me.
For pure storage, I would go Samsung*, WD, Seagate.
*Seagate bought Samsungs drive division so I am don't know if Samsungs are re-branded Seagates now or if Seagate makes the Samsungs using Samsungs technology and factories. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
02-04-2012
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I had no idea in how to compare those both candidates as there never been a way to assure how long it will last for.
We have most barracuda in the office works in various condition. Some are used as simple server storage, other as desktop storage and system drive for workstation. Lately WD start having its market here, then we just started using it without any reference.
What I was able to notice is that most of the Seagate on desktop will only last for 3 to 4 years. Laptop worst, 2 to 4 (shaky in nature?). For the WD, nothing can be concluded yet as we just start using it last year.
I exclude the SCSI and SAS as yet none of it worn out. We even have old SCSI drives lasted for 14 years, but all were replaced due to its short capacity. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built system OS WCP 64-bit CPU CORE i5 Motherboard Intel DH55PJ Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI HD 4650 Sound Card Realtek HD Integrated Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron L1742S; LG Flatron 19"; Toshiba 32" Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024; 1366 x 768 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Power Case Simbadda Cooling Conventional Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
WDC 1 TB Internet Speed 256Kbps Other Info External HDD Transcend 500GB
Dial Up Modem Huawei
Home-made Home Theater
Laptop ASUS K42F, Core i3, 4GB memory, 320GB HDD. |
02-04-2012
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#6 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
When it comes to hard drives I have lived a life of serial monogamy. I was a big WD fan for years until I had a bunch of them die young one after the other. Then I was a Maxtor guy, with the same eventual outcome. I used Fujitsu after that because my company put them in their new builds and I got a discount. Don't know whatever became of that company - they were good drives for me. I went through the IBM Deathstar fiasco. Four of them, plus coupons for replacements which I never bothered using personally - gave them away to people I didn't like. Then ultimately ended up with Seagate, which has been good to me so far. I was lucky and missed their firmware debacle.
Normally I would have just gone and bought some drives, then crossed my fingers and hoped for the best. Since my focus has been on SSDs for the last two years I have very little idea what is good right at the moment, which is why I asked. Since there doesn't seem to be an "avoid at all costs" situation with anyone (I'm with Zepher on still being leery of Hitachi) I will probably try to wait for a sale and go with the best deal. Too bad hard drives aren't traditional Valentine's Day gifts or there might be a special after next week. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
02-04-2012
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I've used Maxtors (2), WD's(15), Hitachi's(3), Seagate's(4) and another brand that escapes me. Of all of these drives only (2) 2.5" WD's have been problematic. If I was adding to my large array of drives I would look to WD, Hitachi, Seagate, Samsung in that order and really if I could get a smok'n deal on a 2 or 3 TB with 32 cache from any of those makes I'd snap it up. I understand the spinpoints are very good as well I just have zero personal experience with them and actually hope to change that situation when sanity comes back to HDD production and pricing. Oh and now I'm getting up to rapidly knock on wood........thanks very much ! lol | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
02-04-2012
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The 2TB Samsung Spinpoints get my vote. I've got 5 of them between home and work and they are great. Don't let the 5,400RPM be a concern, these have so much aerial density they are very fast, quiet and cool. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/1 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
02-04-2012
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#9 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
I think I've only owned one Samsung drive in my life, back in the day when 20GB was a thing of wonder and awe. I keep seeing the name show up here on the "recommended" list, so they will definitely get some consideration.
It's also interesting to hear about the 5400/7200 rpm points. I always associated the 5400 with bargain-basement low performance. Thanks for setting me straight.
Thanks, everyone! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable Which Hard Drive? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:29 PM. |  |