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Windows 7 - Either my monitor or graphics card is failing... but which is it? |
02-04-2012
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Either my monitor or graphics card is failing... but which is it? Hi,
It seems that when I turn on my computer or wake it up from a sleep the image on the screen is vibrating / quivering ever so slightly. However after a minute the image has completely stabilized.
My monitor is a xerox XA7 lcd display which is now 7 years old. My graphics card is a secondhand nVidia GeForce 8600 GT.
What's interesting is that I have an LED TV hooked up to the HDMI out on the graphics card and the image on the TV is always perfect.
So is it my xerox monitor that is failing? Or could it be that just the DVI on the graphics card is failing and the HDMI is fine?
Thanks for your expertise!
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built December 09 OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Core i7 860 Motherboard Asus p7p55d Memory Corsair Dominator 1600MHz Graphics Card GeForce 8600GT Monitor(s) Displays Xerox Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Trust Mouse Logitech Mx1000 PSU Corsair 550W Case Coolermaster CM 690 Hard Drives wextern digital caviar green 500GB 32Mb Cashe |
02-04-2012
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Duncan,
Can you borrow a friends monitor and test it with your card? Also make and un-make the connections to the card to the monitor to clean and refresh their connections and report back. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
02-04-2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) |
If your monitor was an old CRT (as mine was), I would definitely say that your "vibrating" symptom was the monitor itself. I would have to hit the power button to turn the CRT off, let it sit for 15-30 seconds, then power it back on, and it would be alright... for another few minutes or hours or days.
And periodically the "rash" of vibrations would happen repeatedly, and then it would go away for a week.
And as with your story, it was more likely to happen when the monitor came out of power-save mode or when I just turned on the machine and monitor and the CRT hadn't fully warmed up yet.
Anyway it was clearly the old CRT dying. I've now replaced it with a large LCD and of course the problem has disappeared. It was NOT the video card. It was the monitor itself.
But LCD monitors don't work the same way as CRTs. Nevertheless, I would guess it's your old LCD monitor which is failing, not the video card.
You could try the power-off/wait/on sequence I described above, instead of waiting your usual 1-minute after waking up. If these kinds of tricks also solve your problem I would have to speculate it was the monitor that was failing, not the video card.
Video card failures tend to have different kinds of symptoms... such as an array of green spots or square-pixels uniformly distributed over the screen, etc. But the kind of symptom you describe would be a monitor issue, is my guess. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU E6850 3.0Ghz/4MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard SuperMicro C2SBX (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 4GB PC3-8500 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD4850 (1); ATI HD5770 (dual-DVI) (2) (see TV cards) Sound Card Realtek ALC883 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo 24" S2433W (1); Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Microsoft wired (1); Logitech MX Revolution wireless (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1x1TB SATA (7200 RPM), 1x300GB U320 SCSI (10000RPM), 1x750GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 1x320GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x140GB SCSI 10000RPM U320, 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo PCIe OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (2), running under Win7 WMC |
02-04-2012
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Thanks for the replys people!
I just turned my monitor off for 20mins or so, but kept the machine awake by periodically wiggling the mouse. Then I turned back on the monitor and sure enough the image was quivering ever so slightly.
So I think that is probably proof that it's the monitor!
I'm asuming that the graphics card is not aware if the monitor is off and was therefore still active all the time the monitor was off thereby eliminating it from the equation.
It would be a nice power saving feature if the graphics card did go so sleep when the monitor is not on and it is not being used. But I'm assuming that this is not the case.
Also thanks for the tip about reconnecting the dvi, I did this but it has not resolved the issue. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built December 09 OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Core i7 860 Motherboard Asus p7p55d Memory Corsair Dominator 1600MHz Graphics Card GeForce 8600GT Monitor(s) Displays Xerox Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Trust Mouse Logitech Mx1000 PSU Corsair 550W Case Coolermaster CM 690 Hard Drives wextern digital caviar green 500GB 32Mb Cashe |
02-04-2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit |
Just one thought, which you probably already have checked, but just in case....
Your Xerox XA7 more than likely has a different native screen resolution that your LED TV. When you switch from the TV to the monitor, are you certain that the Xerox is set to its native resolution?
I suppose you are using the NVIDIA Control Panel to be sure. Check the resolution and the refresh rate. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit CPU Intel QX9650 - Mild Overclock to 3.5Ghz Motherboard ASUS P5Q SE Plus Memory 16GB G.Skill F2-6400 at 840Mhz Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 9600GT Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays HP w2408h Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 PSU Antec Basiq BP500U Case CoolerMaster ATX ATC-210 Cooling Non-Stock Heatsink w/high speed CPU fan Hard Drives CRUCIAL M4 128Gb SSD, --
Two - WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B0 SATA's, -- One
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 SATA |
02-04-2012
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Yes it is definately at it's native resolution and refresh rate, thanks for the idea though. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built December 09 OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Core i7 860 Motherboard Asus p7p55d Memory Corsair Dominator 1600MHz Graphics Card GeForce 8600GT Monitor(s) Displays Xerox Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Trust Mouse Logitech Mx1000 PSU Corsair 550W Case Coolermaster CM 690 Hard Drives wextern digital caviar green 500GB 32Mb Cashe |
02-04-2012
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One last thought that you can try because it always works for me.
Step 1) Pick up the device in question and throw it across the room.
Step 2) If it breaks then go out and purchase a brand new item, problem solved.
Step 3) If it doesn't break repeat step #1 till it does.
See you feel better and you've helped stimulate the economy just a little ! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
02-04-2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere One last thought that you can try because it always works for me.
Step 1) Pick up the device in question and throw it across the room.
Step 2) If it breaks then go out and purchase a brand new item, problem solved.
Step 3) If it doesn't break repeat step #1 till it does.
See you feel better and you've helped stimulate the economy just a little !
Now that all possibilities have been covered, that is probably the best solution! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit CPU Intel QX9650 - Mild Overclock to 3.5Ghz Motherboard ASUS P5Q SE Plus Memory 16GB G.Skill F2-6400 at 840Mhz Graphics Card nVidia Ge Force 9600GT Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays HP w2408h Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 PSU Antec Basiq BP500U Case CoolerMaster ATX ATC-210 Cooling Non-Stock Heatsink w/high speed CPU fan Hard Drives CRUCIAL M4 128Gb SSD, --
Two - WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B0 SATA's, -- One
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 SATA |
02-05-2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
When you turn it on and it quivers, see if the monitors own OSD (On Screen Display), like a menu, also quivers. If it does, it's the monitor. If the video in the background quivers, but the OSD does not, it's the video source. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" , SyncMaster P2050 20" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 , 1440 x 900 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 3 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Case Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps |
02-06-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere One last thought that you can try because it always works for me.
Step 1) Pick up the device in question and throw it across the room.
Step 2) If it breaks then go out and purchase a brand new item, problem solved.
Step 3) If it doesn't break repeat step #1 till it does.
See you feel better and you've helped stimulate the economy just a little !
Haha, thanks for the suggestion!!
Unfortunately I think my landlord would object to a monitor shaped dent in the wall. But maybe I could throw it out the window..?. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built December 09 OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU Core i7 860 Motherboard Asus p7p55d Memory Corsair Dominator 1600MHz Graphics Card GeForce 8600GT Monitor(s) Displays Xerox Screen Resolution 1280*1024 Keyboard Trust Mouse Logitech Mx1000 PSU Corsair 550W Case Coolermaster CM 690 Hard Drives wextern digital caviar green 500GB 32Mb Cashe Either my monitor or graphics card is failing... but which is it? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:48 PM. |  |