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Windows 7 - BSOD when GPU overheats... Seems too cool to be overheating. |
02-04-2012
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BSOD when GPU overheats... Seems too cool to be overheating. My computer fairly consistently BSODs while playing games for extended periods of time. Usually while playing a game my GPU peaks at about 70~72 C. I know this is up there, but I've seen lots of people not having to worry about overheating until they get to 90 or so.
So my question is, is it normal for my computer to be overheating with a GPU at 72? Or could there be something else underfoot that is causing my issue?
Unfortunately, the last few bluescreens I had were too quick to save any minidumps, and all my old ones are gone... I think I may have accidentally wiped them with CCleaner or something. I've been having this problem for a while and have finally (I think) narrowed it down to my GPU. If it happens again and I get a minidump, I will post it.
My GPU is an Geforce GTS 450.
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 Motherboard ASUS M4A785-M Memory 2 x 2GB Transcend JETRAM DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GEFORCE GTS 450 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2250 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Natural Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Coolmax CLU-650 Case CoolerMaster Scout Cooling 2 x 140 mm, 3 x 120 mm Hard Drives Seagate 1TB
Seagate 250 GB Internet Speed Crappy. |
02-04-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by Siesna
So my question is, is it normal for my computer to be overheating with a GPU at 72? Or could there be something else underfoot that is causing my issue?
That temp is fine, so it's unlikely that heat is an issue. (The GPU core temp anyway)
I'd go with something underfoot - but without a crash dump, it's hard to offer a definitive alternative.
If it's only after an extended period of time, have you monitored your CPU's peak temps?
Have you updated your drivers during this period, or is it the same driverset? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.7 Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 : Noctua NF-P12 120mm Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) Other Info Laptop Specs:
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Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 |
02-05-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by Siesna My computer fairly consistently BSODs while playing games for extended periods of time. Usually while playing a game my GPU peaks at about 70~72 C. I know this is up there, but I've seen lots of people not having to worry about overheating until they get to 90 or so.
So my question is, is it normal for my computer to be overheating with a GPU at 72? Or could there be something else underfoot that is causing my issue?
Unfortunately, the last few bluescreens I had were too quick to save any minidumps, and all my old ones are gone... I think I may have accidentally wiped them with CCleaner or something. I've been having this problem for a while and have finally (I think) narrowed it down to my GPU. If it happens again and I get a minidump, I will post it.
My GPU is an Geforce GTS 450.
That is kind of high for that GPU. I have the same and fully stressed I have the fan control set so it doesn't go over 60. I would advise using the MSI Afterburner program - it works for most any Nvidia and I use it for my Asus GTS 450. It allows you to create a fan response profile, which as I said I use to keep the GPU under 60 event overclocked under load | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
02-05-2012
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Smarty, my CPU never gets over 45C or so. It never gets very hot. It's the same drivers, so next time I play anything, I'll just let it run until it bluescreens, and hopefully get a crash dump this time.
Geneo, thanks for the advice. I will check it out and try to keep my GPU around 60 and see if that helps. After I started getting these blue screens a while back, I even installed two more fans pointed at the card to hopefully cool it down, and it only helped by about 5 degrees or so, dropping me from 75 to around 70.
By the way, none of my hardware is overclocked. This is all stock. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 Motherboard ASUS M4A785-M Memory 2 x 2GB Transcend JETRAM DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GEFORCE GTS 450 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2250 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Natural Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Coolmax CLU-650 Case CoolerMaster Scout Cooling 2 x 140 mm, 3 x 120 mm Hard Drives Seagate 1TB
Seagate 250 GB Internet Speed Crappy. |
02-05-2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 |
This will enable you to have mini dumps on BSODs. But, those GPU temps should not be high enough to cause BSODs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew - Always under construction OS Windows 7 X64 Professional/Windows 8 CPU intel i7-2600K Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/GEN 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3-2133 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA 670 2GB Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VW246H Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500/Logitech Wireless PSU CORSAIR HX850W Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Corsair H100 w/ 4 noctua fans in push/pull. Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB,Crucial M4 64GB,Samsung HD103SJ 1TB, 1TB WD FAEX,Samsung 1.5TB, EXTERNAL HD- 2X Rosewill case esata w/ 1TB Samsung spinpoints & Black X esata 1TB Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Spinpoint, Seagate GOFlex Pro 500GB & 750GB USB Internet Speed Foot Messenger speed Other Info 2nd Computer- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" Laptop i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64. |
02-05-2012
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Thanks for the tip about MSI Afterburner. My GPU is running about 50C instead of 70C. Even though those temps are not hot enough to cause my problem, I like my system running cooler, regardless.
I got a BSOD again with my GPU only at 50C this time, so, definitely not an overheating issue. But once again, no dump file was generated. I don't know why. My system used to create small dumps in the minidump folder, but just now when I went to investigate, it had somehow gotten changed to a kernel dump. I changed it back to minidumps. However, no MEMORY.DMP was generated.. The BSOD is weird. The blue screen is only up for a half a second, then my system restarts, almost like it didn't have time to dump anything. When I restart, windows does not acknowledge the fact that it shut down unexpectedly. The event viewer only states that "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
Trying to cause another BSOD now that I have told it to save small dumps.
Obviously this isn't a simple overheating problem. I only thought it was because my system is only restarting when I've been playing a game for a while. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 Motherboard ASUS M4A785-M Memory 2 x 2GB Transcend JETRAM DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GEFORCE GTS 450 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2250 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Natural Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Coolmax CLU-650 Case CoolerMaster Scout Cooling 2 x 140 mm, 3 x 120 mm Hard Drives Seagate 1TB
Seagate 250 GB Internet Speed Crappy. |
02-05-2012
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Well good then, you can probably rule out temperature. Is the BSOD error code, address and faulting module the same every time? Can you capture those an post them?
The are probably in your system log. Open the event viewer to the system log and filter on error, warning and critical messages.
What Nvidia driver version are you at. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
02-05-2012
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Event viewer is quite unhelpful. Not even acknowledging that it was a blue screen, when clearly I saw one when it restarted.
Whenever I've had a restart, the only relevant thing listed in the event manager is citing Event 41, being a Kernel-Power error. "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
I'm just going to keep using my system like usual for now in hopes that I will get a blue screen that actually generates a helpful dump file. I've been having this issue for going on 6 months, but I gave up on figuring it out for a long while. I know I *was* getting dumps, but I apparently accidentally deleted them all. So here's hoping for a new one that will be useful.
My driver version is 290.36, by the way. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 Motherboard ASUS M4A785-M Memory 2 x 2GB Transcend JETRAM DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GEFORCE GTS 450 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2250 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Natural Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution PSU Coolmax CLU-650 Case CoolerMaster Scout Cooling 2 x 140 mm, 3 x 120 mm Hard Drives Seagate 1TB
Seagate 250 GB Internet Speed Crappy. |
02-05-2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 |
Well....we need the minidumps.
In meantime,
290.36 is beta,install and use an older driver,for the moment dont use any beta driver.
Download and install Speccy-Free-Version take a snip of the summary and upload it here.
Download,install and run OCCT-video-card-test. Finish,find the OCCT test results folder in your documents,zip the folder and upload it here.
During occt stress\test If you see artifacts, or the temperature of your GPU exceeds 80C, stop the test.
Run RAM - Test with Memtest86+
Let it run until at least 9 passes are completed, or errors are found (whichever comes first). The longer you run it,the better. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by me. OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4 Memory 2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL Graphics Card XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 Sound Card 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1 Screen Resolution 1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video Keyboard Wireless Logitech LX710 Mouse Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 PSU THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W Case A-Case Twin Engine BB Cooling 3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan Hard Drives C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
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Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 |
02-05-2012
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Or the latest beta, 295.51. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
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