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Windows 7: SSD Question

06 Feb 2012   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 
SSD Question

I am in the market for a HDD and would like to ask a question about a SSD. As a rule SSD are small. It is considered a big one if it is 160 GB (as far as I know). Since it is recommended on here by most to have your OS and your programs on the same partition, doesn't a drive that small make things rather difficult?


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06 Feb 2012   #2

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Personally I think 160 is the min size so that it is NOT a constant load of trouble. It's perfectly comfortable, with all lmy personal files stored on the network.

Games can make a bit of a mess with that, so you may have to decide if you really want that 6 gig game on the SSD or not. But most programs are not that big. It's the content that goes crazy with the disk space...

You can get away with a 40 or a 80 or 120, but as you said, the smaller it is the more crazy you got to get with the rearranging of this and that and the disk clean up. At 160 I really just treat it as any normal spinner, but save my files elsewhere.

[Edit] Ugh then there are VMs ahaha, almost forgot about those, yes other than maybe ONE VM, you gotta put those on another drivem or get a 320+ SSD! [/edit]
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06 Feb 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

No, because most people won't have anywhere near that many apps loaded. I've already run my corporate laptop on a 64 GB SSD. What most people do is run the OS and their apps on the SSD, and if they tend to load a lot of games, you can always create a folder on your data drive, such as D:\Games, and install them there. The common setup is to use an SSD as C, and have a large HDD as D for your data, like photos, music, etc.
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06 Feb 2012   #4

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
No, because most people won't have anywhere near that many apps loaded. I've already run my corporate laptop on a 64 GB SSD. What most people do is run the OS and their apps on the SSD, and if they tend to load a lot of games, you can always create a folder on your data drive, such as D:\Games, and install them there. The common setup is to use an SSD as C, and have a large HDD as D for your data, like photos, music, etc.
Do you think most folks only put the OS on the SSD? Is there a tremendous difference in the speed? Does it boot a lot faster?
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06 Feb 2012   #5

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck View Post

Do you think most folks only put the OS on the SSD? Is there a tremendous difference in the speed? Does it boot a lot faster?
Most people on this forum put both the OS and applications on the SSD.

Most people, at least on this forum, could not put their data on an SSD--audio and video files take up a lot of space. If all you have is text files, then your data will likely fit on an SSD.

Boot speed on an SSD is typically around 30 seconds--compared to maybe 60 or 80 seconds on a spinning drive.

How much is "tremendous"?
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06 Feb 2012   #6

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck View Post

Do you think most folks only put the OS on the SSD? Is there a tremendous difference in the speed? Does it boot a lot faster?
Most people on this forum put both the OS and applications on the SSD.

Most people, at least on this forum, could not put their data on an SSD--audio and video files take up a lot of space. If all you have is text files, then your data will likely fit on an SSD.

Boot speed on an SSD is typically around 30 seconds--compared to maybe 60 or 80 seconds on a spinning drive.

How much is "tremendous"?
In my book, 30 seconds is not "tremendous". Considering the cost difference, I can wait 30 seconds . My main reason for asking about the space is that I am currently going to replace my 160 GB HD due to it filling up with my OS and programs. I wouldn't want a SSD smaller than 320 GB, maybe bigger. Ones that big are pretty pricey. I think I will just go for a 500 GB HD. Thanks,
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06 Feb 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

It doesn't just speed up boot time. It speeds up the "snappiness" and responsive ness of the entire system, all the time, not just when booting.

If you are filling a 160 GB drive and it's the only drive in your system, you would probably be an excellent candidate for one, as you don't have much data. I have a 240 GB SSD for C, a 750 GB HDD for my data, and a 500 GB HDD for my DVD rips and conversations. Most of my actual data, such as photos, ripped movies, software, etc are store on my server.

It seems very strange end even counter-intuitive that someone with so little data is backing away from SSDs due to their size. On top of that, given the cost of HDDs now, this is a great time to be SSD shopping.

The first and foremost thing you should do it find out how much of your space is data and how much is the OS and apps.
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06 Feb 2012   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

i have a 120gb SSD in my macbook and have mac osx and windows 7 installed, as well as all my apps and data and i still have room to spare. I do have a home NAS system and a server for all the silly things (you dont need 200+ movies on a computer 24/7) and i do have a selection on a portable drive for when im not home (i took the existing 256gb and put it in a caddy.. sensible i know!)

My gaming rig also only has a 120gb SSD in it (i was going to put a mechanical drive in there also, but it was about the time the prices went through the roof so i thought better about it.)
I currently have BF3, skyrim, saints row the third, Red orchestra 2 and a few other games installed and i still have a large amount of space left.

At the end of the day most of whats on our computers is junk.. its stuff that we keep but never really use. i mean i have about 20gb of photos in total.. i dont need them all on my computer at once as i dont look at them that often, nor do i need all my movies and such.
so putting the non essentials on a portable drive is the best compromise. you should of course already have all your files on another format just incase something goes bang... and if you dont well your asking to loose all your data

i have mine on 5 separate drives in my server, on 2 portable hard drives and on my NAS system.. can never back up too much!
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06 Feb 2012   #9

 
 

Remember, SSD performance is directly proportional to the size of the drive. Go bigger if just for that reason alone.
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06 Feb 2012   #10
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My SSDs on the desktops are 60GB - and that is ample since the OS plus a big selection of programs (no games) never exceeds 30GB. My user data I put on the HDDs and if you have large games, you can move them there too. It is also recommended to delete the hiberfile and set the page file to 2GBs.

On the laptops I have 80 and 90GB. That works for me because a lot of the data is on big (16 and 32GB) sticks.

On a couple of those systems I even run Ubuntu in Virtual Box and on the 90GB laptop I will install Windows8 Beta in Virtual box.
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