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Windows 7: Show us your SSD performance 2

31 Oct 2014   #1711
jonnyhillow

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IownAmoneyPit View Post
Bought a new Samsung 840 120GB SSD for my main rig (See Specs) and does it ever Leave my Intel 530 drive in the dust, especially when they were both tested just after install.


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I thought testing the Samsung with rapid mode was deceiving and not indicative of real World performance , what are the differences without rapid mode enabled .


This is how i understood it :


The max actual transfer speed of a sata III port is around 475-515 MB/s, depending on your motherboard and several other things, but that is around the max even the fastest SSD can transfer data. The benchmark scores are really nothing but show. What an OS SSD does is the 4kb read speeds and access times. No matter if my Raid score is way faster than your score, but look at only the 4kb read speed and the access times. There is only slight differences.

I will bet you if I took my Raid set up and put it in your machine and didn't tell you, you would turn your computer on the next day and notice no difference in actual usage. That is how much difference benchmark scores matter. So, don't be discouraged because yours benchmark lower than others. It does not matter at all in actual usage. I have 2 or 3 Crucial drives, in other machines.

This Samsung 840 Pro will eat them alive in any benchmark you want them to run. In actual usage, there is little to no difference. Sometimes I can tell a slight difference, but 95% of the time there is none. I don't like raid and don't like running it and advise everyone else not to. The only reason I did it is I have 2 X 256GB SSDs. My OS takes up about 40-45GB which leaves a lot of wasred space, but my Games or data will not fit on the other 256 GB drive or on the extra space of my OS drive. So, basically I have a whole lot of expensive space left over and pretty much useless, for the way I want to organize things.

So, I raided them to give me close to about 480-485GB. With that space, I can run my OS and games on the 2 SSDs. But, I am taking a big risk, but I backup every night and only have the OS and games on the raid. So, if one died today, it would cost me a clean install which I have down to a fine science. I could be up and functional in an hour after the updates are finished, and most of those I have in the ISO I use for installs. Just so you understand. Benchmarks mean nothing but bragging rites. There are only 2 numbers that really matter.


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31 Oct 2014   #1712
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Sounds like something I said.
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01 Nov 2014   #1713
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

To be honest most people couldn't tell the difference between a good SATA II SSD and a SATA III SSD.........as far as felt performance goes.
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02 Nov 2014   #1714
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

Just another data point. I am running Z87 with a custom BIOS that has Intel RST option ROM 13.5.0.2118 and windows driver 13.5.0.1056 on an Asus Hero VI.

128GB Samsung 840 Pro

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04 Nov 2014   #1715
tinmar49

w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
 
 

I don't have a ripsnorting power pc (fx 4300, gtx 750 ti 16 gb ddr3 1600) but it's more than fast enough for me. But I have one of those Samsung 850 pro 256 magic boxes. AS SSD gives various results, here are with and without the rapid mode.


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04 Nov 2014   #1716
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
To be honest most people couldn't tell the difference between a good SATA II SSD and a SATA III SSD.........as far as felt performance goes.
I kind of somewhat agree... but you would if you're paying attention as SATA III just feels a bit snappier. For example, when I moved from my 128 gig OCZ Vertex 2 (SATA II) to my 256 OCZ Vertex 4 (SATA III) I didn't need benchmarks to tell me the system was snappier. I just felt it.

On the other hand I will say that when I subsequently moved from my Samsung 840 Pro to the Samsung 850 Pro (both SATA III), other than the bench numbers telling me differently, I haven't "felt" an increase in performance like that felt by moving from SATA II to III. That was a bit interesting since the 850 Pro was supposed to be all that and a bag of chips. Not disappointed though.

I know that last paragraph is a bit off point, but I just wanted to point that out. So yeah, moving from one interface to another, yeah, a little. Staying on the same interface but increasing performance... maybe not felt so much.

My two cents.
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04 Nov 2014   #1717
Comicsnut

Win 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Man, I can't wait to get a new motherboard for that SATAIII support...


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04 Nov 2014   #1718
tinmar49

w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
 
 

I have another pc with a Verbatim 128 gb sata 2 (Athlon 235e onboard graphics 8 gb ddr3 1333) which runs quite well, admittedly on 8.1 with very different AS SSD results.


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05 Nov 2014   #1719
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
To be honest most people couldn't tell the difference between a good SATA II SSD and a SATA III SSD.........as far as felt performance goes.
I kind of somewhat agree... but you would if you're paying attention as SATA III just feels a bit snappier. For example, when I moved from my 128 gig OCZ Vertex 2 (SATA II) to my 256 OCZ Vertex 4 (SATA III) I didn't need benchmarks to tell me the system was snappier. I just felt it.

On the other hand I will say that when I subsequently moved from my Samsung 840 Pro to the Samsung 850 Pro (both SATA III), other than the bench numbers telling me differently, I haven't "felt" an increase in performance like that felt by moving from SATA II to III. That was a bit interesting since the 850 Pro was supposed to be all that and a bag of chips. Not disappointed though.

I know that last paragraph is a bit off point, but I just wanted to point that out. So yeah, moving from one interface to another, yeah, a little. Staying on the same interface but increasing performance... maybe not felt so much.

My two cents.
Do you think the felt difference was from a fresh install? Or the actual difference in drives?
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05 Nov 2014   #1720
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Do you think the felt difference was from a fresh install? Or the actual difference in drives?
Well looking at the records on my system builds reveals that I bought my Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 motherboard in June of 2010. On that board the Intel controllers were SATA II, which is where I installed my first SSD drive (OCZVertex 2 (128 gig)) I bought in Dec of 2010.

When I bought the Vertex 4, in Aug of 2012, I still had my Gigabyte X58A system (i7-950) which didnít get replaced until Nov. of 2013.

This means both drives were install on the same board; And no, I didnít do an OS reinstall, I did a hard drive migrate using Paragon Migrate as discussed here from posts 924-941.

So, no OS reinstall, or system rebuilds, just a simple drive swap, mainly from smaller to larger drive (128-256)

FYI, I keep an excel spreadsheet of all my purchases and builds by components installed in any one system. This is how I can be so precise. I know exactly what I have, where itís at and when it was purchased. This of course includes serial numbers and any other pertinent info

But again, no OS reinstall, or system rebuild. So yeah, I think this was really felt, butÖ
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