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Windows 7: Show us your SSD performance 2

13 Nov 2012   #681
IownAmoneyPit

Windows 7 Pro x 2/Windows 10 Home/10 Pro//Windows 10 Insider Preview ?
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hum have finally ironed out a few things - the new build. Power on to login 26 secs but my WEI has dropped 0.1.
Really nice scores on the SSD though ICit2lol and congrats on the new build.


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13 Nov 2012   #682
MichaelTav

W7 HP x64 SP1
 
 
PFFFFT,,,,Really?

So I have a new notebook with the Intel 80Gb mSATA SSD II.
I set up the notebook, do all the updates, open the user account and set it up.
The notebook, Envy 17-3090NR 3D, has stock programs, nothing in it other than what came with it for HP bloatware and W7.
I shut down a lot of extra start up programs, mainly the bloatware, skype and such.

From shutdown, and boot to Windows, from the login screen is 12 seconds, AFTER, I put in my password......Not to shabby for an mSATA II SSD.

Now Get This!,,,,,I get rid of Windows Defender and install avast! Home Free,,,,,This adds approx 1.5 Seconds to my start up,,,,,,,,,,I'm OK with this, its still not to shabby at <14 Sec.
avast! has a boot time scan and its doing the scan quickly,,,,2 thumbs up for avast!

So now I add MBAM Pro, it set itself to 'Delay Start' during install, as it has a boot time scan and avast! and MBAM would really slow things down if they started at the same time, doing the same job and causing all sorts of conflicts with each other.
No noticeable start up delay here.

Sooooo, now for the firewall thingy!
Yep, Windows Firewall, it had to go and I installed Online Armour Firewall.
Great firewall, catches everything that's going in as well as OUT of your PC.
Even without a router firewall to filter anonymous pings, OA Firewall still stopped the notebook from responding, and kept all ports closed.

IT ALSO ADDED 14.5 SECONDS TO MY START UP!?


So here I am looking at a start up time of approximately 30 Seconds (+/-), the same start up time as I had with a Hitachi 750GB 7200RPM SATA II, HDD

I really don't care how fast an SSD's is, their benchmarks, whatever.
Their only as good as the software that's written and installed on them.

For the most part, I feel that software is rushed out and at best can be considered 'BETA'.....(W8!?).
I really don't think there has been any stable software written in the last 10 years,
and most of it is quite poorly written in that respect....(Vista!?).

IMO..............





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13 Nov 2012   #683
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I found this interesting explanation how Windows 8 handles defragmentation on SSDs.

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In Windows 8, when the Storage Optimizer (the new defrag tool) detects that the volume is mounted on an SSD - it sends a complete set of trim hints for the entire volume again - this is done at idle time and helps to allow for SSDs that were unable to cleanup earlier - a chance to react to these hints and cleanup and optimizer for the best performance. We do not do a traditional defrag (moving files to optimizer there location for space and performance) on SSDs.
Source
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13 Nov 2012   #684
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Avast, MBAM Pro, Online armor, to many security program and they will eventually cause conflicts or BSODs.
Pick one suite with a firewall and use other for on-demand scanning only.
Boot times are irrelevant as long as the machine runs fast with w7 up. My reboot times are 57-68 seconds but the machine screams right along.
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13 Nov 2012   #685
MichaelTav

W7 HP x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
1) Avast, MBAM Pro, Online armor, will eventually cause conflicts and BSODs.
2) Pick one suite, a firewall and use other for on-demand scanning only.
3) My reboot times are 57-68 seconds but the machine screams right along.
1) As I do malware removal at (content removed), I will tell you, you are WRONG.

2) To safely run W7 and surf the net Microsoft recommends you have a:
  • Firewall, W7 has W7 Firewall, I replaced it with OA Firewall.
  • Antivirus, W7 comes with Norton and a 2 year licence, I replaced it with avast!
  • Anti Spyware / in the wild malicious software removal tool, W7 has *Windows Defender, I replaced it with MBAM Pro.
So, you can see that the configuration of W7 hasn't changed, just the basic security software has changed and been improved upon. The recommended configuration that Microsoft shipped your OS to you has had its booster shot, and its well immunized now.

The combination I have on my PC will NOT prevent me from getting infected, even safe browsing habits wont help. Running from a User, Limited User or Guest Account helps with infection removal, but its not going onto the internet is the main way of preventing infections.


3) My reboot was 12 seconds, and screams right along..............

* Windows Defender should be set to Disabled or Manual at Start up when running another spyware removal program such as Super Antispyware, Spybot Search and Destroy, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, You can delete it as well, this is the recommend procedure. If running MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) do as the above indicates, MSE has an anti Malware / in the wild-rouge removal tool built in.
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13 Nov 2012   #686
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

See you in the BSOD threads soon then mate. I am not wrong in saying one needs only one security SUITE, If you don't know that is a single program from one company consolidating AV, malware protection, email protection and a firewall. Comes from experience in trying to run free stuff.

Which part do you consider wrong?

Note, w7 does not come with Norton, at least my Student Upgrade version did not. If you bought a HP or Toshiba maybe they have a bundle that does.
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13 Nov 2012   #687
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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See you in the BSOD threads soon then mate
Right on.
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13 Nov 2012   #688
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MichaelTav View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
1) Avast, MBAM Pro, Online armor, will eventually cause conflicts and BSODs.
2) Pick one suite, a firewall and use other for on-demand scanning only.
3) My reboot times are 57-68 seconds but the machine screams right along.
1) As I do malware removal at (content removed), I will tell you, you are WRONG.
Kind of strong language, don't you think?

You should consider changing 'you are WRONG' (Bold and capital letters indicate you are shouting, not necessary or acceptable) with 'this works for me'.

We (Seven Forum members) may or may not be experts, as you may or may not be an expert. What is right or the only way for you may not be the best way for someone else.
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13 Nov 2012   #689
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

The disconnect comes when people don't know the difference between anti-virus programs and malware/spyware programs. You can run a couple of malware/spyware programs at the same time. You CANNOT run TWO anti-virus programs or you will have a BSOD at some time. The one AV rule has been in effect ever since people have started using AV programs as far as I know. One Anti-virus program and a good malicious software program will do the trick for 99% of people.
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13 Nov 2012   #690
MichaelTav

W7 HP x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
The disconnect comes when people don't know the difference between anti-virus programs and malware/spyware programs. You can run a couple of malware/spyware programs at the same time. You CANNOT run TWO anti-virus programs or you will have a BSOD at some time. The one AV rule has been in effect ever since people have started using AV programs as far as I know. One Anti-virus program and a good malicious software program will do the trick for 99% of people.
Dude knows his stuff.
+1

PS:
2 Way firewall is an asset.
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