Show us your SSD performance 2

Well that test wa down with the CPU at 4.2MHz and the RAM ay 2400MHz though I found the OC even when I reset it to 4.0Mhz didn't make any difference. I think it is purely down to the CPU as this is my Asus ROG running an i7 @ 2.4MHz no OC and RAM at 1600MHz. The CPU is the thing that holds up my Ivy Bridge desktop

PS my WEI for the same machine is lower and the graphics are the let down even with a GTX 860M on board

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/365594-ssd-z-solid-state-drive-tool.html

A Guy

So this is weird. I have a W530, with a QM77 chipset, and 32Gb of PC-3 14900 memory, running at 1866 2/3 (nominal, actual is about 1864) MHz. I looked up the specs for the ASUS ROG. Assuming a i7 4860HQ CPU (which is about 10% higher in Passmark score than my 3820QM) and an HM87 chipset (which has the same 6Gb/s ports, as my QM77), you're showing nearly fifteen times the performance. And you're stating that the FSB frequency is only 1600, and I'm running 1866 MHz.

Some of those numbers seem to violate the physical limits of SATA3. I did notice the overall write score on you screen grab was nearly the same as the 4K-64Thrd. Normally the score seems closer to the average of that and the seq. read score. And then I noticed that that number was not aligned properly, as if someone had pasted in an abnormally high value...

So, we have
1) Computers in Oz run faster than anywhere else, or
2) You've really souped up and tuned your system in ways I have no clue about or have not enabled (e.g RAPID mode). In which case, please give me some hints on improving my computer's benchmarks..., or
3) Your pulling the old kangaroo's leg, and your computer is big-noting it's speed. If so, good on ya mate, you had me for a bit.

If there's a "RAPID- OZ Mode" option in the Australian version of Disk Magician, would you mind sending me a copy of that executable?

Well Wizard I really take exception to implying I "fixed" the results because a) I don't know how to photoshop stuff and b) I think I am a little more principled than that, and there will be plenty of members who will let you know that I am no expert for one and for another have always and will continue to be up front and honest in anything I do or say.
I mean what the heck have I got to gain apart from bragging rights and I am not into that I can assure you.

Furthermore I have no idea on how to overclock this machine and don't intend doing so I wanted it mainly because of the HD graphics the speed is just a an added plus in my mind. Also there is no special OZ methods of using the Magician (if there is then you know better than me!!) which I have hardly had to touch on this machine I just set my machines up (5) using Brinks Optimise tutorial and leave it at that.

My machine if you should want to check the specs is an Asus ROG G750JM:sarc:

Performance envy, lol

A Guy

ICIT2LOL, I was attempting humor by teasing you, not truly implying malfeasance. (You didn't notice the wink? ) You've helped me before, so I have a very positive impression, Sorry if attempt at humor came across as "J'Accuse!".

This leaves me in quandary, though. How can two machines, otherwise similar, give such dramatically different benchmarks? I mean, we're both using the same model disks, for criminy. I've seen results in Atto Benchmark where enabling RAPID had a remarkable effect on the numbers. Do you think that this is it?

Thanks,

Wiz

Thanks for mentioning the Brink Tutorial on Optimizing Windows. I think I've done most of the stuff, but there are a few added wrinkles in there that I've not seen that seem useful.

Jim

rapid mode will give you remarkably significant gains in Benchmarks. From my experience, that does not translate to actual usage. I have not seen any difference.

PPS

I was going to send you a PM to make a more clear apology, but found that you don't accept PMs (wise, given the 14,500 or so posts you've made: you probably don't need additional PMs). Let me be clear, I thought I saw something that hinted at your pulling my leg, and was hinting at being in on the joke. No insult or ill will intended at all.

In my defense, I'm an engineer, and I've observed that I notice even slight differences in fonts, alignments, etc. My friend Bob has put his finger on it: he counsels other engineers to avoid changing fonts in Powerpoint slides (even from 22 to 24 point, and back again). If you change fonts, engineers notice and focus on the font size change rather than the point of the slide.

A. Guy is right: I'm envious of how you got such fast numbers. I'll look through the Brink material. Do you have RAPID enabled on your SSD?

As I've said, you've helped me with other problems, so please let me reiterate that I hold you in high regard and regret any impression otherwise.

Best,

Wiz

Wiz apologies accepted I suppose I did take umbrage a little too far and too hastily should have known that you have been on posts with me and never thought too straight and no mate I didn't notice the wink.

Just for the record it made me almost fall off my chair too as the CPU is running at 2.4GHz and it is the first i7 I have ever had.

The RAPID bit I have set to enable the only other thing I have dabbled in the Magician Optimise and the firmware being checked stuff the Over Provisioning I have no idea without looking in a Google at what it even means.
A pic of the Magician open.

So, I'm building a system from scratch (well, scratch, and the four Lenovo Restore/Recover discs). The lenovo install puts a partition at the end of the disk. This did not allow me to add the overprovisioning, a term which was greek to me also when I saw it. Still not sure I understand it except that it is supposed to prolong SSD life.

I recently had a... let's call it a discussion ... with a chap regarding whether the ultrabay on the Lenovo W530 was SATA3. This introduced me to Crystal Disk Mark (note to others: be VERY careful of which version you download, as most of them have Opencandy built in - sarbin at the Lenovo site advised me to try the portable version, which so far scans clean). And here, the AS SSD benchmark is used. Very similar, although CDM does seem to do more passes and so may be a bit more accurate. And there are differences (most slight, in the 10-15% range, some where one program's value is double the others) in outputs.

So I'm just getting my feed wet wrt benchmarking. And I'm really just starting to use SSDs. The upshot is, I'm going to go back and install an 850 pro in the ultrabay of my W530, and will do benchmarks on both disks using the ATTO, AS, Passmark, and CDM stuff, and post the comparisons. Then I'll turn RAPID on and look at the difference.

Of course, there's a limit to what this means practically (thanks, essenbe). But the benchmarks are nice to give a hint at how well we've got our system tuned.

Thanks for your gracious note. It means a lot to me.

Heya all.

I currently have two SSDs. A Samsung 840 EVO and OCZ-Vertex2.

The OCZ drive has problems, randomly deciding it not longer wants to be recognized, after searching around it seems to be a common problem with that particular drive and despite all attempts nothing seems to fix it, so I'm looking for a replacement.

Been looking at the PCI-e SSDs and was wondering if anyone here knew much about them? Are they worth it? Does the mobo need specific support for it? Any drawbacks?

As far as the "Open Candy" PUP mentioned , it is my experience that "Eset Online scanner " will always catch it when you enable (check for unwanted programs) but i can't say that for the majority of other on demand scanners etc...

I have used many types including some of the most highly regarded over the years and apparently "Open Candy" seems to have been declassified by many of them so they just do not pick it up even as a "PUP".

Eset is one of the very very few that does always pick it up in my experience but don't forget to check the advanced options boxes.

nums,

There's a lot of information about PCIe here, and lots of inflamed rhetoric about PCIe v1,2,3, or 4 vs SATA, but I find the following graph somewhat calming:


I'm using an 850 Pro at SATA 3 (6Gb/s, 600Mb/s). Some of the higher-specification PCI-e stuff (rev 4, for example), might be interesting, but I can't find specs on PCIe rev levels for my W530.

jonny,
Thanks, I had not heard of eset. That said, there IS a version of Crystal Disk Maker that is standalone, and does not appear to have open candy (when I scan with mwbm and Norton). This version is what I used.
Thx,
Jim

I have an Intel 530 and while not showing the performance #'s as some other drives it has lightning fast boot times.

Jonny,

Certainly, all of the disks we have now are lightning fast compared to even a year or two ago (not even thinking about the 5Mb 5 1/4 disks in the old IBM XTs!). The Intel 530 is SATA 3, and so should compare in the same range with the disks in the chart posted above, as long as your rig handles SATA 3 disks.

As I've said, at no time in recent memory has the lack of CPU or hard drive speed slowed down my typing in MS Word.

Jim

The problem with the Sata 3 is you always see the 6 Gb/s mentioned. That is the theoretical limit of Sata 3. It can only be achieved in a lab under perfect conditions. The practical limit has been reached for a few years. The most you are going to actually get over sata 3 is in the 450-550 Gb/s range. That is why the newer chipsets are going to M.2 ports. They do not run from the Sata Bus. They run over PCIe lanes. I don't know whether the 1150 chipset has M.2, but my board has it and it uses 4 PCIe lanes, which equates to 8 GB/s on each lane, so 32GB/s max. The problem is there are very few devices right now. I read where Samsung is in manufacturing of one which supposedly will do that fast. but, I suspect they will be expensive and I would like to see the actual speed of it. It is sort of like the often quoted specs of USB 3.0 being 10 times faster than USB 2.0. That is lab stuff too. You will never see close to the speeds they quote.

I grabbed a Crucial CT512 MX drive in the black friday sales last year for £60. Not yet actually benched it!

So here we go!

I have run Intel SSD's on sata 2.0 and 3.0 and I can't tell the difference.

When I can move my mouse or type on my keyboard so fast the usb 2.0 is to slow I will have to run cooling water to both my mouse and keyboard.

Remember the magic three words when they talk about the speeds.

(Up To Speeds)

The new M.2 PCIe will be super fast but what are you going to do with all that speed.
M.2 is very fast but everything else on the motherboard is still running the old sata and usb speeds.
The newer cpu's and ram will like it, but again what does the rest of the system do will that speed?

At the present time my speed slow poke is the internet speed I have.
Don't get me wrong; when the time comes I will build a system with M.2 just for S & G and tinkering.