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20 Feb 2012   #51
Nexuhildrix

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Computer still crashing, could this be the BIOS?

Hey sevenforums, i've got some help to my computer on the hardware section, its been crashing after playing any game for 1 - 12 hour, Depends on the crashes, sometimes i've been playing 10 - 12 hours, other times its been 1 - 3 hours. seems like the more memory its using, earlier crash. On the hardware section we have been testing my GPU, CPU, PSU and RAM. No errors running stress test and prime95. (didnt solve any problem so we moved on to software / drivers)


Gregrocker has been helping me getting clean reinstall on windows aswell, installing nvidia graphic driver for me through teamviewer. (2 - 3 days ago) last night i was installing 2 games while playing battielfield, i quited playing battlefield and opened wow. 10min later my computer crashed playing world of warcraft. I was checking my drivers for my motherboard, and my BIOS seems to be a old version from 2011, the new version is for 2012/1/26... (M5A88-V EVO - Motherboard). I tried to install the new bios, been following a few guides and watching some videos on youtube how to do it. It told me the driver was installed (new version), my pc did a reboot after the BIOS installed succesful. I checked for the version and it says "30-12-2011)..

Questions:

Could the BIOS cause my pc to crash using alot of memory?

Why is it my BIOS dosent update to the new version?

also got a few other outdated drivers to my motherboard, should i wait installing them to i got the newest version of BIOS?


Thanks for reading my thread sevenforums, i hope you can help me out.




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20 Feb 2012   #52
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

I've had a quick read through of this thread and I think it could well be a power problem. NVidia recommend a minimum PSU of 500/550W for the GTX 560Ti graphics card and, although you have a 650W unit, that only leaves 100-150W for the rest of your system.

Are you familiar with using a digital multimeter to backprobe the power supply connectors to monitor the voltages whilst your system is running? If so, could you use this technique to monitor the auxiliary 12V supply lines to your graphics card (the 6-pin connectors) and report back what voltage you are getting under normal conditions (idle) and again under load (running the game you're having problems with). I want to see whether the voltage drops below the ATX toleration limit of 5% (11.4V) when the card is under load.
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20 Feb 2012   #53
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

nexuhildrix,

I will address your bios update questions.

To that end, your system specs are an absolute necessity.

My favorite program for gathering info is SPECCY.
With SPECCY you can copy and paste.
Speccy will also show you your temps, which in your case, are of interest.

Here is how to update your specs:

Update your SevenForums System Specs
User CP (3rd item in the top menu bar) |
Your Profile | Edit System Spec
(left-hand column)

To gather info, use Speccyor System Info

Add the word laptop or desktop or netbook to the
“system manufacturer” block, for example,
Toshiba Satellite L305D notebook.

Provide full windows version info, for example:
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

Use the “Other Info” block for Optical Reader,
Mouse, touchpad, wifi adapter, speakers, monitor, etc

Scroll down and click on the SAVE CHANGES button.

===============================================
thanks, karl
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20 Feb 2012   #54
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Ignore my advice on system specs.

My oversight.

Now I'll study them before the next recommendation.

However, you might find Speccy an easy and nonintrusive method of watching over your temps.
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20 Feb 2012   #55
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

nexuhildrix,
Go to this site to get your latest bios. Your latest is the asus version number 1001.

Here I've used the info from your system specs to get correct info from asus.

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS M5A88-V EVO

There are many ways to determine your present bios version.
One way is with SPECCY.

Another is with MSINFO32.EXE (that's a program that comes with Windows)
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20 Feb 2012   #56
Nexuhildrix

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Okay my bios is 1001, my pc crashed 15min playing minecraft and talking on Skype..
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20 Feb 2012   #57
Nexuhildrix

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
I've had a quick read through of this thread and I think it could well be a power problem. NVidia recommend a minimum PSU of 500/550W for the GTX 560Ti graphics card and, although you have a 650W unit, that only leaves 100-150W for the rest of your system.

Are you familiar with using a digital multimeter to backprobe the power supply connectors to monitor the voltages whilst your system is running? If so, could you use this technique to monitor the auxiliary 12V supply lines to your graphics card (the 6-pin connectors) and report back what voltage you are getting under normal conditions (idle) and again under load (running the game you're having problems with). I want to see whether the voltage drops below the ATX toleration limit of 5% (11.4V) when the card is under load.
I will get back with the infomations very soon.
.
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20 Feb 2012   #58
Nexuhildrix

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Is it true that the 3 big fans is using 20 - 50W each?

Also when my pc starts up. The 3 big fans is having trouble starting( starts for 2 sec, stops) keeps going like that for 20sec - 3min then they start running smooth.

Hope thats alittle help :-)
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21 Feb 2012   #59
TVeblen

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

I'd say no. Most 120mm fans run on a quarter of an amp or a half amp @ 12v. So that means the use between 3 and 6 watts each. Probably a typo in whatever article you are reading.

You can look on the label of the fan and it will say how many amps it draws.
Watts = Amps x Volts.

The fan symptoms reinforce Dwarf's suggestion that the power supply could be defective. A supply that is not pumping out power on a smooth curve will cause all kinds of odd symptoms.

Can you borrow another power supply from someone to test with?
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21 Feb 2012   #60
Nexuhildrix

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TVeblen View Post
I'd say no. Most 120mm fans run on a quarter of an amp or a half amp @ 12v. So that means the use between 3 and 6 watts each. Probably a typo in whatever article you are reading.

You can look on the label of the fan and it will say how many amps it draws.
Watts = Amps x Volts.

The fan symptoms reinforce Dwarf's suggestion that the power supply could be defective. A supply that is not pumping out power on a smooth curve will cause all kinds of odd symptoms.

Can you borrow another power supply from someone to test with?
I was planing to get a 850W anyway, just in case i'm going to get any upgrades. :-)

I will let you know as soon i get one
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