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Windows 7: My first SSD how to clone to HDD partitions

03 Mar 2012   #11
mick1

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
The OP's question lead me to do some thinking. Since I've always been using method 3, is it better to use method 2 diskpart instead? Does method 2 or 3 results differ in any way?
Ok Thanks i took a Quick look at ur ((Hack to Remove 100 MB System Reserved Partition When Installing Windows 7 )) TUT very Nice info i did not know i can do all of this thanks much,, I am Rocky so my Question is what is so useful about deleting this 100mb ??? thanks ,, The other thing is i clones my SSD to my HDD and every thing boots up smooth but know i Lost all my Drive letter on my HDD hhhhh


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05 Mar 2012   #12
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I've always used diskpart also. It's quick and easy and done at the time of install.
Method 3 is quick and easy and done at time of install too.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mick1 View Post
Ok Thanks i took a Quick look at ur ((Hack to Remove 100 MB System Reserved Partition When Installing Windows 7 )) TUT very Nice info i did not know i can do all of this thanks much,, I am Rocky so my Question is what is so useful about deleting this 100mb ??? thanks ,, The other thing is i clones my SSD to my HDD and every thing boots up smooth but know i Lost all my Drive letter on my HDD hhhhh
That's the main reason I do it (aesthetic), to remove a drive letter when cloning/imaging my SSD.
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05 Mar 2012   #13
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The guide does not show him aligning the SSD. Whether diskpart will auto align, I don't know, but the installer will. But, why do diskpart if you are going to format with the installer. Quite simply, there needs to be no 'Hack' to remove the 100MB partition. If you align and format the SSD and then install to an already aligned partition, it will not create the 100MB partition. With the caveat that I never run 'Clean All' command on my SSDs, this is a good guide that gives the option to have or not have the 100MB partition. You will notice there is no hack. If you do this to an SSD during installation exit diskpart, then simply install, there will be no 100MB partition. Also, if it is a new SSD, you can omit the 'clean' command, and begin at the create partition primary. You will also be better off to disconnect all hard drives except the SSD and make sure your sata controller in in AHCI mode before starting. This was just an example to show someone how to do it on a reinstall.

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05 Mar 2012   #14
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
Method 3 is quick and easy and done at time of install too.
That's the other reason I use DISKPART. Everything I've read says that the drive will be properly aligned each time with DISKPART, but not always with the GUI installer.
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06 Mar 2012   #15
mick1

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

essenbe the Guide u provide here is amazing thank u, but it looks like this is only when i want to do a fresh install right ??? coz now every thing is up and running, the other thing is i try to avoid re installing Windows as much as i can coz lately i have been re installing Windows over and over coz i keep switching from raid to ahci and so,, now i am set on AHCI ,, so to avoid all the hassle and down time from re installing windows i did some google search and found this Unattended Installation Software for Windows Unattended Installation Software for Windows
this software says it will install windows and all other programs from scratch and u dont have to do anything ,,, so DO U KNOW anything about this software or anything similar ?? that can keep me away from the running around finding every thing back again ???

Last question what do u guys prefer Cloning or Imaging ???

u guys r the best thanks
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06 Mar 2012   #16
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Cloning and imaging are 2 different tools used for 2 different purposes. They aren't "competitors". Which you should use depends on your intentions.

What are your intentions?

Any why don't you install Windows once instead of so often that you are asking about unattended installations?

What are your intentions?

I've re-read the thread and don't fully understand your complaints or what you are trying to accomplish.

There's no particular point in agonizing over the 100 MB System Reserved partition either. Some use it and some don't. It hardly matters in the larger scheme of things.
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06 Mar 2012   #17
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

An SSD has to be in proper alignment. I have had issues with imaging, unless the image came from an aligned SSD. Others do not have such problems. There is a good tutorial here about transfering the OS by WHS which I can't get to right now. My prefered method is Paragon Migrate ($19.95) it will transfer the OS align it and has worked without fail for me on numerous occasions.
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06 Mar 2012   #18
mick1

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Cloning and imaging are 2 different tools used for 2 different purposes. They aren't "competitors". Which you should use depends on your intentions.

What are your intentions?

Any why don't you install Windows once instead of so often that you are asking about unattended installations?

What are your intentions?

I've re-read the thread and don't fully understand your complaints or what you are trying to accomplish.

There's no particular point in agonizing over the 100 MB System Reserved partition either. Some use it and some don't. It hardly matters in the larger scheme of things.
Ok good Enough so i will show u by Picture what has happened and what i would like to do ,, take a look at this ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

So Disk 0 is my SSD --- Disk 1 is my 500gbHDD ---Disk 2 is not important just an old HDD 80gb for some programs ... So when i cloned my SSD as u see i lost my Letters On my HDD the major Question is if i clone again it looks like Acronis will take out my A partition But i am not sure so this is what i want to know !! should i stop cloning and do imaging or i am ok with cloning and it wont take my partition A ?? or what will u do if u have this set up like me ??? all i want is to Avoid is losing Data and re installing windows every 2 day Hop i was clear and hop one of u guys can help thanks much
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07 Mar 2012   #19
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
Method 3 is quick and easy and done at time of install too.
That's the other reason I use DISKPART. Everything I've read says that the drive will be properly aligned each time with DISKPART, but not always with the GUI installer.
I guess both methods work just as well. As long as it's formatted under Windows 7 it will be properly aligned.


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07 Mar 2012   #20
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
I guess both methods work just as well. As long as it's formatted under Windows 7 it will be properly aligned.
That's the point. From what I've read on here and elsewhere, it isn't always aligned properly using the GUI installer, as opposed to diskpart. Considering this, and how quick and easy it is to use diskpart, I don't take any chances. I'd rather spend a few seconds early on knowing it is done right.
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