| Windows 7: Mismatched Ram Slow, will matched sticks fix issue? |
06 Mar 2012
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Mismatched Ram Slow, will matched sticks fix issue? When I ordered my laptop from HP it came with 6 GB of memory. I realize now that they are mismatched sticks and the memory is only running at 533 MHz (7-7-7). The laptop has an i5 560M and the memory should/can run as fast as 667 MHz. If I buy a pair of matched sticks will they run at PC-10600 (667 MHz; 9-9-9) or am I stuck at 533 MHz no matter what I do? BTW, I cannot change the timings in the BIOS, I checked. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 64 Home CPU i5 2500k Motherboard Biostar TZ68A+ Memory 2 X 8 GB 2133 Graphics Card ATI HD 6570 Sound Card ASUS Zonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 23" PSU 750 Watt Corsair Hard Drives 2 500 GB Seagate SATA 300 Raid 0 |
06 Mar 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
Mmm, possibly. But 533 memory at 7-7-7 may in fact be identical in actual speed to 667 memory at 9-9-9. ANd even if the data throughput was faster at 667 9-9-9 you would never notice it RL.
So it would more than likely just be a big waste of time and money :/
If you want your laptop to scream, replace the HDD with an SSD | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
06 Mar 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
I'm not 100% certain, but I think you'll be restricted to 553 MHz as a higher clock speed may cause your computer to blue screen.
Your best bet is to download and run the Crucial memory scanner, which will offer advice on the best RAM configuration for your motherboard. SDRAM, DDR2 and DDR RAM memory upgrades from Crucial.com | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
06 Mar 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Your RAM is actually running at 1066, 533 X 2, in dual-channel mode. Replacing it with 567 (1333MHz), may help or not. OEM boards, especially in laptops have been made to the manufacturers' specs and almost always are locked BIOSes and have no settings for RAM.
Check the specs on HP's site for your model for what you rig can support. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
06 Mar 2012
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Crucial does recommend 1333 (667 x 2) two 4 GB matched sticks for $45. I can get them for $36 on Newegg. It really is not much money to have it running at the best performance. This would add 2 GB of memory. It is the OEM thing and the not having any control over the settings that bothers me. Will it run at 1333 with matched sticks, that is the question? Seems to me the reason it is not is because they are not matched. CPU-Z shows the SPD memory as being able to run at 1333 (9-9-9), but it is not.
I have also considered an SSD, but not right away. The cost will go down in time and then I will consider it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64 Home CPU i5 2500k Motherboard Biostar TZ68A+ Memory 2 X 8 GB 2133 Graphics Card ATI HD 6570 Sound Card ASUS Zonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 23" PSU 750 Watt Corsair Hard Drives 2 500 GB Seagate SATA 300 Raid 0 |
07 Mar 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
It's your money, but even if you get it to run at a memory clock that is 25% faster you will be incurring 22% more clock WAITS in the process. And again, even if they were the same wait states, you would never ever ever tell the difference. The entire memory bus speed/memory throughput thing has been the most worthless pursuit of anything in the improvement or OC endeavours on PCs. I mean if people literally have money to burn, then sure, why not. But otherwise...
I.e. if you had a game that got 45 FPS you might get 45.2 FPS out of it with the memory speed bump. And that's still a big maybe.
Save that $36 for your SSD
[Edit] I should point out that some time ago I bought a new computer (Well put together myself) that had the (then) new 1066 DDR bus on it with 4 sticks of quality 1066 RAM. The ram ran SO HOT that I decided to under-clock it to 800 and it made zero noticeable difference in anything I did, including Photoshop and gaming... [/edit] | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
07 Mar 2012
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#7 | | |
Thanks fseal for the insight. I will probably do both the memory and the SSD at some point. The memory is so cheap right now I hate to wait and a few years from now decide to upgrade and it costs much more to upgrade. The SSD is also on my radar to do and when prices get better I will jump at it. How would I transfer my OS to the new SSD though? Would I have to do a complete reinstall (I have the restore disk) or can I somehow do an image to the new SSD? Another option is I have an OEM Win 7 Home disk and just use my laptop product key with a clean install, might need a clean install by then anyway. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64 Home CPU i5 2500k Motherboard Biostar TZ68A+ Memory 2 X 8 GB 2133 Graphics Card ATI HD 6570 Sound Card ASUS Zonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 23" PSU 750 Watt Corsair Hard Drives 2 500 GB Seagate SATA 300 Raid 0 |
07 Mar 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Fseal has a valid point about RAM frequencies. The trade-off for higher speed is higher latency, how long the RAM takes to return info after a request is made. Unlees it would be possible for you to make a dramatic jump, sya to 1866 or 2133 you'll see no real-world benefit.
Example, I have been setting up a new motherboard and being new ti its UEFI BIOS, I had my RAM running at only 800MHz. After finally getting it up to a bit more than specs (1866) to 1880, I saw an improvement in how fast programs opened and performed. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Mar 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 ultimate x64 sp1 glos., uk |
matched pairs may, depending on your MB & bios settings, allow dual channel use where unmatched pairs would not. it would be technically faster, but only trial will tell if you can notice it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build Nanu by 3SX OS Win 7 ultimate x64 sp1 CPU Intel i7 4 core 3770k ivy bridge o/c to 4.2ghz Motherboard Asus p8z77-i Deluxe Memory 16 GB Graphics Card Nvidia geforce GTX650 Sound Card Realtek on mb Monitor(s) Displays 24in. lcd/led Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech wireless kbd/mouse mk300 Mouse Logitech wireless kbd/mouse mk300 PSU Silverstone 450 watt Case Silverstone FT03 Black Fortress Cooling Water cooler Hard Drives 128GB Kingston SSD
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07 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |

Quote: Originally Posted by kronckew matched pairs may, depending on your MB & bios settings, allow dual channel use where unmatched pairs would not. Just a small correction, it doesn't matter whether the sticks are a matched pair or not as the ram itself has nothing to do with whether it runs in dual channel or not. It is entirely dependent on what the memory controller supports as to whether it will run dual channel or not, and almost all memory controllers today (all AMD since the first Athlon 64 and the recent Intel CPU's) have the memory controller (also known as the IMC) integrated into the CPU.
As far as matched pairs or not, as long as they are the same specs they should work no problem. The only reason for matched pairs is to rule out any possible compatibility issues. Even if they aren't the same speed/latency, if they work together the faster will just downclock to the slower speed and dual channel would still work. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
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