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Windows 7: motherboard revival? suitable for Win 7?

19 Mar 2012   #11
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64
 
 

Ha, well, I don't know if I'd bake a motherboard if my machine was only slow, gemini. But who knows. My screen had genuine problems, you could tell it was either a bad LCD or a bad GPU or maybe screen wire. Turns out my laptop (Dell Latitude D620) has a history of overheating GPUs, which I didn't know, so I figured that was the culprit and that baking might work. A new motherboard would only cost me about $45, didn't care if I ruined the one in the oven. There are lots of videos on YT, and I haven't found any hard and fast rules to go by, but if you do bake it the rule of thumb appears to be about 200 degrees C (390-400F) for no more than 10 minutes. It worked for me, and it's worked for others -rejoins solder joints that the overheating GPU has loosened. But there is no guarantee because I've read about people trying this and it has not worked. I've also read about people saying it worked temporarily and they baked it again, which helped, but that failure always ultimately happened once more. So I think if you're at this stage be prepared, for The End is near. And again, I would only do this with something you don't mind throwing in the spare parts pile and/or trash if it doesn't pan out.

Golden has given great advice. I'd add that sometimes new RAM can be finicky, so you might need to be patient. I went through three matched sets this past weekend for that 8GB for my desktop. Had random crashing, ran Memtest and had to go back to the store three times before they finally had a set that worked.


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19 Mar 2012   #12
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Thanks Colonel,
I was just looking at the page Golden posted 'requirements for win7' and it says win7 requires 1GB ram (32 bit) or 2GB ram (64 bit) this confused me because I had it in my mind that 64 bit would be better than 32 bit therfore requiring more RAM for 32 bit... ? !
I have 64 bit RAM
Opps gotta go plug my laptop in to power... no internet available there... c'mon ADSL!
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19 Mar 2012   #13
Nitro58

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 
virus software

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
The RAM which is in the machine now is testing fine.
Although it has only had one pass, it has a note at the bottom (where it was scrolling in red before) stating that it tests fine and no errors were found.

I need to find some RAM for an Asus motherboard M2N68-AM - 2.6ghz AMD processor. The old RAM is DDR2-800.
I guess this means I can look at getting RAM more suitable for Win7.

Colonel Travis, I had a giggle about baking the laptop, maybe I should get more details from you and do it to my old laptop, it seems to be sooooooo slowww. I have to change the antivirus program to norton, avg is extremely resource hungry, when it updates I can't do a dam thing. Thanks for your input re the RAM too
about your virus software, most of us here use MSE (it's free). Norton is a resource hog also, both of these are good programs.

www.microsoft.com/download/en/virus-malware.aspx?q=virus

Malwarebytes : Malwarebytes Anti-Malware PRO removes malware including viruses, spyware, worms and trojans, plus it protects your computer
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19 Mar 2012   #14
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

updating memtest status
wall time 3:18:00, pass 7, errors 0

Nitro 58, I just bought Norton 360 so I have a 12 month subscription for 3 pc's. I was going to put this on my old laptop but I think I might look into MSE if it is less hungry.. I haven't had a look at the sites you posted yet but will do hopefully later today. Thanks for that.

I have to head out, but I might leave the memtest running while I am out.

Thanks to everyone for help and support!
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20 Mar 2012   #15
vaidas3

Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nitro58 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
The RAM which is in the machine now is testing fine.
Although it has only had one pass, it has a note at the bottom (where it was scrolling in red before) stating that it tests fine and no errors were found.

I need to find some RAM for an Asus motherboard M2N68-AM - 2.6ghz AMD processor. The old RAM is DDR2-800.
I guess this means I can look at getting RAM more suitable for Win7.

Colonel Travis, I had a giggle about baking the laptop, maybe I should get more details from you and do it to my old laptop, it seems to be sooooooo slowww. I have to change the antivirus program to norton, avg is extremely resource hungry, when it updates I can't do a dam thing. Thanks for your input re the RAM too
about your virus software, most of us here use MSE (it's free). Norton is a resource hog also, both of these are good programs.

www.microsoft.com/download/en/virus-malware.aspx?q=virus

Malwarebytes : Malwarebytes Anti-Malware PRO removes malware including viruses, spyware, worms and trojans, plus it protects your computer

actually norton antivirus 2012 takes less resources than MSE..
but i dont know if it is same about norton internet security and 360
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20 Mar 2012   #16
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Hi gemini,
Any errors, even one, in memtest86+ means a RAM failure. This may be due to the RAM or memory controller settings or can be bad RAM.

If you get any errors during memtest86+ you can stop the test.

If you want to try adjusting some of the RAM and memory controller settings maybe we can get it stable.

Install the 'bad' RAM, if it will run long enough to get some information D/L CPUZ.
D/L CPUZ and post a snip of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs.
For posting the information , enter 'Snipping tool' in the Start button > Search box, hit enter. Select the area you want to post and save to a convenient place.
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Have you been checking your temperatures?
Use Core Temp, to check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.

Go to your BIOS and tell us what the CPU, RAM and the CPU integrated memory controller voltages are.

Let us know if you have any questions.
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20 Mar 2012   #17
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Hi Dave,
Thanks for your reply. I have been running the memtest with RAM from my working machine for a bit over 10 hours, with 21 pass and 0 error.
I had a quick look into D/L CPUZ. I am assuming it is expected to have the computer running long enough with the bad RAM to run this test. If thats the case, I dont like our chances.
I will have to reinstall the operating system (xp at this stage) while I have my good RAM installed first then I will give it a try after that.
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20 Mar 2012   #18
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Given that the good RAM is working perfectly (21 passes with no errors), I see no reason why you shouldn't go ahead and install the OS to see what happens. I don't see the point in trying with the original memory, since you stated:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
Bottom portion of the screen is still scolling in red and we have about 45,000 errors
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20 Mar 2012   #19
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your reply. I have been running the memtest with RAM from my working machine for a bit over 10 hours, with 21 pass and 0 error.
I had a quick look into D/L CPUZ. I am assuming it is expected to have the computer running long enough with the bad RAM to run this test. If thats the case, I dont like our chances.
I will have to reinstall the operating system (xp at this stage) while I have my good RAM installed first then I will give it a try after that.
You can stop the memtest86+ test.

Good plan, install th OS first.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
Just changed the RAM over with RAM from a working machine and the test sems to be running smoothly, there is certainly no scrolling through errors in red at the bottom... will update again!
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
Also, the working machine I have just ventured into also has just the one RAM stick.
Both of these computers were built by the same guy.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
Given that the good RAM is working perfectly (21 passes with no errors), I see no reason why you shouldn't go ahead and install the OS to see what happens. I don't see the point in trying with the original memory, since you stated:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gemini2010 View Post
Bottom portion of the screen is still scolling in red and we have about 45,000 errors
The OP has two systems with one RAM card in each system.
They put the good RAM card from the functioning system into the problem system and the RAM passed.
Should be easy to test the bad RAM in the system that previously failed and see if a couple setting changes might get it stable.
Might save them from buying new RAM, which may be inevitable anyway, since if they upgrade to Win7 it will be better to have 2GB RAM.
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20 Mar 2012   #20
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

OS installed... just getting CPUZ now.
Just a thought, I noticed that the borrowed 'good' RAM is slower? than the original 'bad' RAM... 371Mhz? vs 430Mhz? or something along those lines... does that make any sense and would that cause the crash?
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