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Windows 7: motherboard revival? suitable for Win 7?

20 Mar 2012   #21
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Hi Gemini,

Nope, slower sped won't affect the crashing, unless that speed is incompatible with timings set in the BIOS. Dave will be able to tell from the CPUZ info that you post.

I agree with Dwarf : since you have a good 'borrowed' RAM, test Windows 7 on this laptop by installing it - you do not need to validate it for 30 days since you are effectively trialling it, so do don't place a check mark in "automatically validate online" option during installation.

Regards,
Golden


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20 Mar 2012   #22
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

I think Golden meant
Quote:
don't place a check mark in "automatically validate online" option during installation.
Shouldn't cause a crash, the info from CPUZ will help analyze that.

The Memory tab is what the current RAM settings are.
The SPD tab is the manufacturer tested settings, and are their recommended setting choices.

Let us know if you can get the CPUZ tabs with the 'Bad' RAM installed.
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20 Mar 2012   #23
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Thanks Dave - thats correct " do NOT place a check in "automatically validate online"
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20 Mar 2012   #24
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Managed to take a screen shot of all the details...
Interesting to note that I managed to get these details before it crashed again, this time with the following errors;
  1. generic host process for win32 services has encountered a problem and needs to close
  2. automatic updates has encountered a problem and needs to close
  3. pc frozen
I rebooted with the good RAM in order to transfer the files to USB.


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20 Mar 2012   #25
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Have you been checking your temperatures?
Use Core Temp, to check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.

I can't run the core temp program on that machine, it wants to connect to the internet which is not available to that machine at the moment.


Go to your BIOS and tell us what the CPU, RAM and the CPU integrated memory controller voltages are.

I am guessing I need the bad RAM for this? I might have to do this step tomorrow as it is getting late now.

Thanks heaps for all your help!
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20 Mar 2012   #26
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

You're welcome.
No problem, let us know how it's going tomorrow.

You can download Core Temp on another computer and transfer it by USB memory stick.

You can check the BIOS voltages with the good RAM installed.
Let me know if you have any problems finding the voltages, I can look them up in your motherboard manual.

The RAM should run fine at those settings.
The SPD tab, manufacturers recommended settings, lists 400MHz and the Memory tab shows the actual settings at 371MHz. The frequency is turned down a little bit, this should make it run easily at the 5-5-5-15 timings. So that is ok for now.

We can make some adjustments after you get the BIOS voltage settings.
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20 Mar 2012   #27
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Hi Dave,
I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, I tried going to the website twice for Core Temp but the only file I could find was an installer file which wants to connect to the internet.
Any ideas are welcome!
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20 Mar 2012   #28
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Yes, you can't get Core temp directly, it uses some flaky installer and will add toolbars and other crapware if you're not on your toes.

Here is another one that will read your temps and more.
Open Hardware Monitor - CPU Temperature, Fan Speed and Voltages in a Free Software Gadget
You'll get a zip file, installs nothing, you just right click the exe in the extracted file and run as admin.
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20 Mar 2012   #29
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Hi Britton,
Thanks for your post, I will look into that one shortly...!


Dave,
I think this is the information I needed to acccess?

CPU Ratio and Voltage:
  • Processor Frequency Multiplier [Auto]
    (Options are Auto or x8.0 1600Mhz through to x13.0 2600Mhz)
  • Processor Voltage [Standard]
    (Options are Power Saving Mode, Standard, +50mv, +100mv)
Memory Timing and Voltage:
  • Memory Clock Mode [Auto]
    (Options are Auto or Manual)
  • DRAM Timing Mode [Auto]
    (Options are Auto or DCT 0)
  • Memory Over Voltage [Auto]
    (Options are *Min = 1.85000V, Max = 2.24375V, Standard = 1.8500V, Increment = 0.00625V)
Chipset Voltage:
  • Chipset Voltage [Auto]
    (Options are Auto, +50mv, +100mv, +150mv)
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20 Mar 2012   #30
gemini2010

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Hi Britton,
I tried open hardware monitor but it has an application error, The application failed to initialize properly (Oxc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application.
I have tried recopying it to disk, and I will try it again after this post.

**Have just tried again with older version of open hardware monitor and has the same error.
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