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Windows 7: Point of getting an SSD?

16 May 2012   #81
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
A 60GB SSD is ample for the OS and a good selection of programs (unless you have very large games) By now I own 7 SSDs and the biggest is 90GB - but that is in a laptop where I have no other disk. All my /7 desktops run on 60GB including 2 virtual partitions for Ubuntu and Windows 8. All my user data is on the HDDs.
Just my $0.02, but I picked a 120GB SSD when I built my latest gaming rig a couple months ago and now it's just about full - well, there's 40GB or so left, and if I ditched SF4 I'll probably get 10GB back, but the point is 60GB wouldn't cut it. My documents and songs etc are all on another drive too. It's just the OS and games in the SSD.

Most modern games - meaning stuff you'd pick up at the store, like Skyrim - you need to allow 10GB or so each. They're just simply freaking huge. Steam games are smaller but even at 2-3 gigs apiece it adds up. This is one of the things that motivates me to finish games: so I can uninstall them and reclaim the space


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16 May 2012   #82
UnknownReverent

MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

I'll be installing games and what not on my other hard drive. Not the SSD.
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17 May 2012   #83
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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As for the SSD, since your budget is tight and your buying multiple components - it falls under the luxury rather than necessary category atm. Save up and grab a higher capacity when you can.
I don't know about the luxury part. I would rather spend my money on a SSD than a faster CPU. In daily operation the SSD gives you more mileage in terms of performance. The disk is usually the bottleneck; the CPU only in rare cases.
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17 May 2012   #84
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I don't know about the luxury part. I would rather spend my money on a SSD than a faster CPU. In daily operation the SSD gives you more mileage in terms of performance. The disk is usually the bottleneck; the CPU only in rare cases.
I usually refer to SSD's as luxury items as I still find that you can have a wickedly fast and more than usable PC by installing a standard spinner drive and having lots of disk space to boot. While I do run SSD's on some machines, I don't see a need to run them on all machines that I might own.

If I had 1 and only 1 machine, i can very well see your point that I would want an SSD on it. But if I have 5 different computers that I use at home, I don't think having an SSD on 5 of them would really be enough of a benefit to justify the cost. < - But of course, that's just my opinion.
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17 May 2012   #85
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Yes SSD's were luxury items when they had their original cost to performance but as they have gotten faster and fallen to sub $100.00 for 128 gb then they now have firmly entered the realm of must have. As I've stated over and over they are the single most transformational item one can add or upgrade to in a system. Are they for everyone....no but they're the one item you hear over and over that once added people say that they now understand and would never go back. Proof is in the testimonials of all types of users. Don't underestimate the heat and power savings as well !
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17 May 2012   #86
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Right Alan - the low (or non existing) heat is one of the benefits of SSDs. I had a HP laptop that ran very hot. I replaced the HDD with a SSD and the heat problem was solved.
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17 May 2012   #87
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
Yes SSD's were luxury items when they had their original cost to performance but as they have gotten faster and fallen to sub $100.00 for 128 gb then they now have firmly entered the realm of must have. As I've stated over and over they are the single most transformational item one can add or upgrade to in a system. Are they for everyone....no but they're the one item you hear over and over that once added people say that they now understand and would never go back. Proof is in the testimonials of all types of users. Don't underestimate the heat and power savings as well !
Don't get me wrong, I own 2 SSD's. I've had my 80GB Intel X25-M2 for nearly 2 years and it cost me nearly $300 (and I don't regret the purchase one bit). My primary desktop runs the Intel X25-M2 and my laptop runs an Intel 320 series 80GB. And I'm actually considering upgrading my 80GB intel to the Corsair Force 3 240GB as it's $199 from NewEgg and this would give me lots more space for games and such than my current 80GB provides.

With that said, I've also got a desktop at work that runs from a 1TB WD Caviar Blue that I use day-in and day-out. I don't feel having an SSD on this machine is necessary at all. So, I'm not yet in the camp who feels that an SSD is a must have or would never want to work on a machine without an SSD again. But certainly, as an enthusiast, on my primary workhorse PC, I want an SSD.

Luckily, SSD's have gained lots of traction because
1). SSD prices have fallen (perhaps artificially fast because of #2)
2). Mechanical prices have skyrocketed due to flooding in Thailand
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17 May 2012   #88
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

SSD's have for sure gained traction from the floods and higher costs of spinners currently. But it mainly has been the economic's of the manufacturing process scales that have tipped the balance from luxury/enthusiasts to the, must have, average Joe needs and wants this device. Again not for everyone or every situation but that being said for most users once they load their OS in a forth the normal time, boot in a fraction of the time and hit the Photoshop icon and before they can sip from their coffee it's open........wow this is what they mean! It's all about time and the best use of same only problem I see is we very quickly get normalized to it. But use a computer without a SSD and the differences are right in front of you.
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17 May 2012   #89
Victor S

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

SSD's are still many multiples of cost per GB than spinners.
Really depends on your needs.
You see many warnings here about 60GB and even 120GB not being big enough.
You can get a 1.5TB spinner for the the price of a 120GB SSD.
So if you're cost conscious and your primary need is storage and not speed, choosing a spinner is an easy choice.
My main PC use is playing games. Not doing benchmarks, just playing games.
They all play flawlessly sitting on WD Caviar Black spinners, for on-line and off-line play.
I almost pulled the trigger on an SSD for my boot drive this week.
Didn't do it though, because I don't need it for performance, and it doesn't make financial sense to me for storage.
Oh, I wanted it, and it was a bit hard not pulling the trigger.
I've been wanting SSD for 30 years.
Thing is, spinners have much improved since then.
Sure, an SSD would boot faster, and load a game faster.
Then what? Nothing really.
If I want to transfer lots of data, say a 20GB system image, unless I have all SSD for storage, it's only going to transfer as fast as a spinner can read/write.
So SSD is still a "luxury" to me.
My next drive will be an SSD for the boot drive, but only after one of my current 500GB drives gives me issues.
Not that I'll need it, just want it. I deserve a treat.
Heat and power consumption are also good arguments for SSD. Especially for laptop users. If I used a laptop I would already have SSD's, no doubt.
For my desktops, I've resisted the attractive prices to get boot and load speed.
When I built this box 2 years ago SSD's were much more expensive, and 500GB WD Caviar Blacks were cheap - about 75 bucks I think.
Seems there were many more SSD reliability complaints on Newegg then too.
Might just be because people will complain about $300 bricks more than $90 bricks.
Anyway, that's my view. Still want SSD, just not yet.
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17 May 2012   #90
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

It's all about justification. So many ways of getting the job done and no one solution is for everyone. It's what makes this hobby so interesting, seeing all the systems customized or bone stock. It's all good!
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