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Windows 7: Can I install My OS on an SSD plugged into a SATA3 PCI Express Card?

24 May 2012   #21
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Thanks for the info guys!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Degradation isn't a worry, the site ignatz referred to they used several SSD and I think the first failed only after something in the neighborhood a petabytes had been written, which would be several years of ordinary use. TRIM and garbage collection and better controllers make SSDs much more tolerant to write/erase cycles.

Of course the best use of SSD is to load the OS and most used apps on it and put your Users file and AppData on a separate HDD.
Yeah when I get one I plan just to install the O/S and programs. All my user files will be kept on my spinners. I've got two western digitals set up as a RAID 0 array. I'll probably remove the RAID setup though once I've migrated Windows to SSD.


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24 May 2012   #22
meebers

Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
 
 

So typically, how much does a Win 7 system need as far as SSD memory and how much do you allow as a margin. Page drive on the spinners or??
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24 May 2012   #23
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

64GB SSD would hold windows no problem. My windows partition is 64GB on my spinner at the moment. Although I may opt for slightly bigger as I plan to install more and have some Virtual Machines set up too. I always keep my pagefile on the same drive as Windows myself.
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24 May 2012   #24
meebers

Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Burdus77 View Post
64GB SSD would hold windows no problem. My windows partition is 64GB on my spinner at the moment. Although I may opt for slightly bigger as I plan to install more and have some Virtual Machines set up too. I always keep my pagefile on the same drive as Windows myself.
OK Great. I have been thinking about this for a while. 128GB M4 is about $125US and that is within range. Generating an image and recovery will take minutes.
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24 May 2012   #25
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by meebers View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Burdus77 View Post
64GB SSD would hold windows no problem. My windows partition is 64GB on my spinner at the moment. Although I may opt for slightly bigger as I plan to install more and have some Virtual Machines set up too. I always keep my pagefile on the same drive as Windows myself.
OK Great. I have been thinking about this for a while. 128GB M4 is about $125US and that is within range. Generating an image and recovery will take minutes.
Yeah, I'm looking at either the M4 or the Samsung 830. Both seem pretty good.
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24 May 2012   #26
bobkn

Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Burdus77 View Post
Yes looking forward to getting an SSD. I've looked at some comparisons on YouTube and even running on a SATA 2 board it's still much quicker than a spinner.

Only thing that does concern me is people saying that performance can degrade over time and the only thing to do is to completely erase it. Seems like a lot more hard work than defragging a spinner!
Windows 7 supports TRIM, which is supposed to eliminate the need to refresh SSDs. I believe that it requires that the SATA controller be run in AHCI mode.

TRIM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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24 May 2012   #27
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Burdus77 View Post
Yes looking forward to getting an SSD. I've looked at some comparisons on YouTube and even running on a SATA 2 board it's still much quicker than a spinner.

Only thing that does concern me is people saying that performance can degrade over time and the only thing to do is to completely erase it. Seems like a lot more hard work than defragging a spinner!
Windows 7 supports TRIM, which is supposed to eliminate the need to refresh SSDs. I believe that it requires that the SATA controller be run in AHCI mode.

TRIM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hello bobkn,

When I boot up my bios says it is an AHCI BIOS, I can only find two options in the bios for Sata and they are RAID On, and RAID Autodetect/ATA.

Does this mean my board is already set up for AHCI if it's set to RAID ON?
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24 May 2012   #28
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

For a Windows install you'd need about 12-15GB for Ultimate x64 SP1 and keep the page file on the SSD. You should disable Hibernation, it will create a file as large as installed RAM.
AHCI allows for NCQ, Hot Swap, and drive encryption, it's not necessary for an SSD and will run without it.
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25 May 2012   #29
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

All I use for desktops are 60GB SSDs and I never ran out of space. I keep the whole system and a LOT of installed programs (no games) on the SSD. I eliminated the hiberfile and set the pagefile to 2GB. Never had any problems and Windows7 with all the programs never exceeded 30GB.

My user data is on the spinners. But I also run virtual partitions (vBox) on the SSDs. They take an additional 6GB for Ubuntu and 15GB for Windows 8. But that still leaves me with appr. 10GB of free space.
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25 May 2012   #30
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Hello whs,

You have your pagefile set at 2GB? How much ram do you have installed?
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