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28 May 2012   #1
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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 
Hardware newbie here...

Hello again and sorry for the trouble to ask for the professional advice again. And apologize again if this is in the wrong thread, please help me move this, thanks.

So recently, I want to upgrade my current PC which is in a pretty bad condition atm, I was thinking to build one on my own due to budget. I have found some parts from my local store but I am not too sure if all the parts can 'work' together like if I go for this mainboard, will the graphics card works, etc. I am pretty bad here so I would like your advice.

I have found out the price from my local store and here are the parts I would to get. However, I have a budget of $1200 and want it to support playing D3 in all high settings.


Mainboard + Processor – Gigabyte Z77-D3H + Intel® Core™ i7-3770 - $589
Graphics Card – nVIDIA GeForce GTX560 (2GB) - $272
RAM – Kingston PC1600 HyperX (2 x 4GB) - $80
HDD – Western Digital Green SATA (2TB) - $159

I have set aside $200 for chassi and power supply. Since I don't need cool looking chassi.

I would like to ask, are those parts compatible with each other since I am choosing base of my friend's recommendations. Is there any other better/cheaper alternatives when I comes to those parts? I would like to play D3 with all high settings.

Sorry for the long and poor English and thanks in advance for all advices.


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28 May 2012   #2
Baddcog

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Hey 1337,

You can probably do better price online. I like newegg.com, they have always done good for me.

You can get an i5 2500 (K if you intend to Overclock). It's the best bang processor for the buck. Great performance and a lot cheaper than the i7, I doubt you'll notice the difference. Get a sandy bridge version imo, sounds like the ivy's are running hot.
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$220

giga byte z77 mobo
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$189
(just saved you a hundred bucks

You can also get 8 gigs of ram cheaper. it's 1600 clock, but most comps can't do more than 1333 without OC these days anyway.
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
($55)
there's another $30

Here's the best mobo bang for the buck ($120)
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
That's what I went it (and the other items listed). Runs greats. This one is a bit odd and they were aiming more for the business market (hence the odd serial ports on the back)
And it can only run one GFX card at 16x, but you get a nice one and that's all you really need.
It's a z68 but the z77 aren't any different really (I forgot the difference but it's a very minor thing that you won't notice)

gtx560
Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$240 with a $20 rebate

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For gaming do NOT get a green HDD. That will be the bottleneck, go ahead and get a full power HDD. You can get an alright case for $50 or a nice one for $100-120

I'm running D3 at 1440x900, all high but I bumped shadows down to medium (not that I have to) (ati 5850 1 gig)
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looks like I need to update my specs...
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28 May 2012   #3
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Baddcog View Post
Hey 1337,

You can probably do better price online. I like newegg.com, they have always done good for me.

You can get an i5 2500 (K if you intend to Overclock). It's the best bang processor for the buck. Great performance and a lot cheaper than the i7, I doubt you'll notice the difference. Get a sandy bridge version imo, sounds like the ivy's are running hot.
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$220

giga byte z77 mobo
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$189
(just saved you a hundred bucks

You can also get 8 gigs of ram cheaper. it's 1600 clock, but most comps can't do more than 1333 without OC these days anyway.
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
($55)
there's another $30

Here's the best mobo bang for the buck ($120)
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
That's what I went it (and the other items listed). Runs greats. This one is a bit odd and they were aiming more for the business market (hence the odd serial ports on the back)
And it can only run one GFX card at 16x, but you get a nice one and that's all you really need.
It's a z68 but the z77 aren't any different really (I forgot the difference but it's a very minor thing that you won't notice)

gtx560
Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$240 with a $20 rebate

------
For gaming do NOT get a green HDD. That will be the bottleneck, go ahead and get a full power HDD. You can get an alright case for $50 or a nice one for $100-120

I'm running D3 at 1440x900, all high but I bumped shadows down to medium (not that I have to) (ati 5850 1 gig)
--------

looks like I need to update my specs...
Hello, sir. Thank you for the information and effort on helping me to locate those parts. They are good references for me. However, I live in Asia and I don't think Newegg can ship them to me so, I have to buy them off local stores and the price that I have mentioned above are SGD. (My very bad for not mentioning)

The stores here are like 'forsaking' i5-2500K series from the price-list I have gathered, they are all revolving around other parts. I was wondering, what difference does it make if I take:
1.) i7-2600, i7-2600K and i7-2700K?
2.) i7-3770 and i7-3770K? (Did a comparison at Intel site and thinks that the i7-3770 has more features? I have no idea what they are but no harm having.)

And, with so many mainboard to choose from, which do I usually look out for? I see what they have tons of similar specs but they differ in price so I am guessing they have to be different in some way. Is it the way they perform, etc?

I guess, I will stick to GTX560 as it is within my budget of SGD$300 range.
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28 May 2012   #4
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
I have a budget of $1200 and want it to support playing D3 in all high settings.


Mainboard + Processor – Gigabyte Z77-D3H + Intel® Core™ i7-3770 - $589
Graphics Card – nVIDIA GeForce GTX560 (2GB) - $272
RAM – Kingston PC1600 HyperX (2 x 4GB) - $80
HDD – Western Digital Green SATA (2TB) - $159

I have set aside $200 for chassi and power supply. Since I don't need cool looking chassi.
I assume you are buying parts in Singapore? What you can get depends entirely on your vendor's stock.

You certainly wouldn't need that processor to play the game you desire, but if it fits your budget, OK.

I'd steer you to a Western Digital Black hard drive, rather than Green.

I'd get an SSD for the operating system and applications if possible, perhaps 80 or 120 GB. I'd cut back on the processor if I had to in order to get the SSD into my budget.

Try to get a name brand power supply rather than some no-name cheap brand. Preferably Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, or XFX, in the range of 500 to 600 watts.
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28 May 2012   #5
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
I have a budget of $1200 and want it to support playing D3 in all high settings.


Mainboard + Processor – Gigabyte Z77-D3H + Intel® Core™ i7-3770 - $589
Graphics Card – nVIDIA GeForce GTX560 (2GB) - $272
RAM – Kingston PC1600 HyperX (2 x 4GB) - $80
HDD – Western Digital Green SATA (2TB) - $159

I have set aside $200 for chassi and power supply. Since I don't need cool looking chassi.
I assume you are buying parts in Singapore? What you can get depends entirely on your vendor's stock.

You certainly wouldn't need that processor to play the game you desire, but if it fits your budget, OK.

I'd steer you to a Western Digital Black hard drive, rather than Green.

I'd get an SSD for the operating system and applications if possible, perhaps 80 or 120 GB. I'd cut back on the processor if I had to in order to get the SSD into my budget.

Try to get a name brand power supply rather than some no-name cheap brand. Preferably Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, or XFX, in the range of 500 to 600 watts.
Yes, sir. Firstly, thank you for the information. I understand that so I am looking at the mainboard from their price-list since I have no idea what to look out for on mainboard, etc. I think they will have the stock given that it is in their price-list.

I am capping a budget of 600 for the mainboard and processor and I am not sure about the specs of the processor as well. I have heard many reviews saying that an i5 would be more than enough to handle games in high settings.

The price of SSD here is really expensive. a 64GB SSD would cost almost twice as much than a 1TB Black WD HDD. So, I think I will still get a Black WD HDD as many people has recommend on that.

Yeah, I am getting on Cooler Master brand for casing and PSU since I have no idea about their stuffs, just saw some of my friends using. I will keep a lookout for 500 to 600 watts PSU, thanks.
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28 May 2012   #6
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Can you provide a link to your vendor so we can see what they have in stock?

The i7-3770 CPU requires a socket 1155 motherboard, as do most recent Intel processors.

A few of the newest Intel processors require a socket 2011 motherboard.

Yes, cheaper i-5 processors would be more than powerful enough to run your game.
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28 May 2012   #7
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Can you provide a link to your vendor so we can see what they have in stock?

The i7-3770 CPU requires a socket 1155 motherboard, as do most recent Intel processors.

A few of the newest Intel processors require a socket 2011 motherboard.

Yes, cheaper i-5 processors would be more than powerful enough to run your game.
Hello, sir. Thanks for the help again. Here is the link for the pdf download.
Download Section - Bizgram Pricelist - PC Components - Bizgram Asia Sim Lim Square Pricelist May 29th 2012
Sorry, I couldn't attach the pdf for proper viewing. I am browsing this on phone. Sorry and thanks.
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28 May 2012   #8
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

I am looking over the price list.

2 questions for now:

Which of these components do you need to include in your $1200 budget: Operating system, keyboard, mouse, DVD drive, monitor?

Are you certain you need a 2 TB hard drive rather than 1 TB?
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28 May 2012   #9
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
I am looking over the price list.

2 questions for now:

Which of these components do you need to include in your $1200 budget: Operating system, keyboard, mouse, DVD drive, monitor?

Are you certain you need a 2 TB hard drive rather than 1 TB?
Thank you very much for the help.

The initial plan was;
Mainboard
Processor
Graphics card
Chassis
PSU
1TB HDD
RAM

The rest like OS, I can obtain from school with cheaper student price. Keyboard and mouse will be reused.
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28 May 2012   #10
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post

Thank you very much for the help.

The initial plan was;

Mainboard
Processor
Graphics card
Chassis
PSU
1TB HDD
RAM

The rest like OS, I can obtain from school with cheaper student price. Keyboard and mouse will be reused.
I just spent about 90 minutes looking over that price list.

Here is what I would buy if I walked into that store with $1200 and wanted that graphics card you mentioned.

RAM: G Skill Ripjaw X 1600/9 2 x 4 $78

Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce GTX560 (2GB) $272

HD: WD Black 1 TB $198 or WD Blue 1 TB $138; there isn't much difference between these.

SSD: Intel 330 60 GB $125

PSU: Seasonic S12ii 520 $88 or S12ii 620 $102; high quality brand; 520 watts is enough.

775 to this point with most expensive components; 701 with the least expensive.

Leaving $425 to $499 for the case and motherboard/CPU; choose from these 3:

Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 with i5 2320: $414; leaving up to $85 for the case;

Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 with i5-3450: $425; leaving up to $74 for the case;

Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 with i5-3550: $448; leaving up to $51 for the case;

Case: your choice for the remaining budget; up to $85, depending on which CPU you choose.

Total: $1200 or less.

I would think any of those i5 processors would run your game at maximum level, but you might want to get confirmation.

In my opinion, you will have a much better overall experience if you get an SSD. You can certainly install your games on the HDD if you need to save space.

Motherboard details: full ATX; Realtek sound; PS/2 port; HDMI port; 4 USB 2.0 ports; 2 USB 3.0 ports; DSUB and DVI ports; 4 SATA 3 gbs ports; 2 SATA 6 gbs ports; 2 PCI slots; supports 32 GB RAM up to DDR3 2133

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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