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Windows 7: Replacing DVD drives - IDE to SATA

31 May 2012   #1
tommy3

Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1
 
 
Replacing DVD drives - IDE to SATA

Hi,
Over the past few months, I've rebuilt my desktop, which was all IDE.

It is now all SATA, except the 2 DVD drives. A small problem prompted me to replace one of 'em, so I decided to replace both - to make the machine all SATA.

The drives arrived today. Sony AD 7261 & Samsung S222. The first thing I noticed was - No jumpers.

Do I just instal 'em & they sort 'emselves out ? There are no drivers/discs with either drive.

thanks for reading.


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31 May 2012   #2
TVeblen

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Yes, just plug them in.

In SATA there is no master/slave hierarchy. Every drive is treated equally and is just "a drive". It is left to the OS to sort out any drive functions.
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31 May 2012   #3
tommy3

Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1
 
 

O.K guys - no probs - but I expect you all knew that.

I installed the drives & so got rid of the IDE adapter, ribbons and modular power cables. This alone freed up a PCI slot & cleaned up the interior.

The MB SATA connectors are banked as 1,2,3,4 and separately 5,6. I left the HDD's on SATA 1 & 2, & decided to put DVDs on 5 & 6, to keep 'em separate from the HDD ones.
For some reason, although both DVDs showed up in BIOS, the Samsung wasn't recognised by the system. I connected them to SATA 4 & 5 & now all is o.k.

Am a bit disappointed by the spinning noise from the Samsung unit, when it was supposed to be quieter than most.

Now, I just gotta remember how to set up an internal modem for dial-up connection !? Due to losing an expansion slot, I had to change the modem to a different fitting. I don't suppose for one minute, that my old setting will just jump up & be recognised,,,,,, of well, I can dream.

Hope this helps others in a similar quandary.
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31 May 2012   #4
TVeblen

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From what you are describing you have 2 SATA controllers on your motherboard. An Intel controller with 4 SATA ports, and a separate controller with 2 (by Marvell, or other company).

Optical drives are real touchy in SATA mode. They are really a legacy component in terms of their speed in the system. That is why they have more trouble on the secondary controller.
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31 May 2012   #5
tommy3

Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1
 
 

That's interesting - I had no idea. The M.B is new this week & I didn't study its features too well.
It is an Asus M5A78 (AMD) which replaced an Asus M478.
The 'old' one has 6 SATA slots together, so was probably a different set-up.

Both booklets say "SATA connectors 1-6". If they are separate controllers, does that mean that 5 & 6 are used for something different ?
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31 May 2012   #6
TVeblen

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I just looked at your MB. I was wrong. It just has one controller with 6 SATA ports.

So why didn't the optical drive work in ports 5&6? We may have to chalk that up to the 'flaky-ness' of SATA optical drives, or just a bad connection.
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31 May 2012   #7
tommy3

Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1
 
 

Thanks for taking the time to look into it.
As I said, one of the new drives worked,,,, & the other did show up - somewhere.
As you say, the technical term -flaky-ness- abounds.

all the best
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31 May 2012   #8
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

SATA optical drives aren't flaky at all. It's just an interface, so if they are designed for the interface, they'll work fine. Perhaps what TVeblen meant was that early on, some SATA optical drives didn't show up to some burning apps when the SATA ports were set to AHCI, but that's largely a thing of the past.

I've been using Samsung burners for a few years now and they are some of the best drives on the market. If they are loud, then either there's a drive issue, you were using a cheaply made disc, or it wasn't mounted securely in your case.

I would be more concerned with why your last port(s) didn't pick up the drive. That would make me concerned, since it was a nice board.
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31 May 2012   #9
1Bowtie

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

One possibility is the port was not enabled in bios.
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31 May 2012   #10
TVeblen

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Perhaps what TVeblen meant was that early on, some SATA optical drives didn't show up to some burning apps when the SATA ports were set to AHCI, but that's largely a thing of the past.
Hey Deacon - I have run into SATA optical drives that have a hard time being recognized by the system. Granted, few and far between. But for reasons I have never figured out the system seems to "run past" the drive during a cold start (for lack of a better explanation). The drive does not get enumerated. But then it does on a restart. If I put in a different drive then all is OK.

I'm guessing that with today's fast booting systems the older controllers in these optical drives are too slow to communicate with the BIOS in time. But it could just be bad luck and a defective drive too.

Whenever I run across people or parts that puzzle me I guess I just categorize them as "flaky" and move on .
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