| Windows 7: Replacing DVD drives - IDE to SATA |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 30 posts U.K |
Replacing DVD drives - IDE to SATA Hi, Over the past few months, I've rebuilt my desktop, which was all IDE. It is now all SATA, except the 2 DVD drives. A small problem prompted me to replace one of 'em, so I decided to replace both - to make the machine all SATA. The drives arrived today. Sony AD 7261 & Samsung S222. The first thing I noticed was - No jumpers. Do I just instal 'em & they sort 'emselves out ? There are no drivers/discs with either drive. thanks for reading. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 CPU Phenom II x2 Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX Memory 4gb Graphics Card Nvidia GT430 Sound Card n/k Monitor(s) Displays n/k Keyboard MS Curve Mouse PC-line Laser PSU OCZ 500 Hard Drives 1/ Samsung 1Tb
2/ Seagate 1Tb Internet Speed B.T = who knows |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 4,145 posts In The Woods |
Yes, just plug them in.
In SATA there is no master/slave hierarchy. Every drive is treated equally and is just "a drive". It is left to the OS to sort out any drive functions. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 30 posts U.K |
O.K guys - no probs - but I expect you all knew that. I installed the drives & so got rid of the IDE adapter, ribbons and modular power cables. This alone freed up a PCI slot & cleaned up the interior. The MB SATA connectors are banked as 1,2,3,4 and separately 5,6. I left the HDD's on SATA 1 & 2, & decided to put DVDs on 5 & 6, to keep 'em separate from the HDD ones. For some reason, although both DVDs showed up in BIOS, the Samsung wasn't recognised by the system. I connected them to SATA 4 & 5 & now all is o.k. Am a bit disappointed by the spinning noise from the Samsung unit, when it was supposed to be quieter than most. Now, I just gotta remember how to set up an internal modem for dial-up connection !? Due to losing an expansion slot, I had to change the modem to a different fitting. I don't suppose for one minute, that my old setting will just jump up & be recognised,,,,,, of well, I can dream. Hope this helps others in a similar quandary. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 CPU Phenom II x2 Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX Memory 4gb Graphics Card Nvidia GT430 Sound Card n/k Monitor(s) Displays n/k Keyboard MS Curve Mouse PC-line Laser PSU OCZ 500 Hard Drives 1/ Samsung 1Tb
2/ Seagate 1Tb Internet Speed B.T = who knows |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 4,145 posts In The Woods |
From what you are describing you have 2 SATA controllers on your motherboard. An Intel controller with 4 SATA ports, and a separate controller with 2 (by Marvell, or other company).
Optical drives are real touchy in SATA mode. They are really a legacy component in terms of their speed in the system. That is why they have more trouble on the secondary controller. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 30 posts U.K |
That's interesting - I had no idea. The M.B is new this week & I didn't study its features too well.
It is an Asus M5A78 (AMD) which replaced an Asus M478.
The 'old' one has 6 SATA slots together, so was probably a different set-up.
Both booklets say "SATA connectors 1-6". If they are separate controllers, does that mean that 5 & 6 are used for something different ? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 CPU Phenom II x2 Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX Memory 4gb Graphics Card Nvidia GT430 Sound Card n/k Monitor(s) Displays n/k Keyboard MS Curve Mouse PC-line Laser PSU OCZ 500 Hard Drives 1/ Samsung 1Tb
2/ Seagate 1Tb Internet Speed B.T = who knows |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 4,145 posts In The Woods |
I just looked at your MB. I was wrong. It just has one controller with 6 SATA ports.
So why didn't the optical drive work in ports 5&6? We may have to chalk that up to the 'flaky-ness' of SATA optical drives, or just a bad connection. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 30 posts U.K |
Thanks for taking the time to look into it.
As I said, one of the new drives worked,,,, & the other did show up - somewhere.
As you say, the technical term -flaky-ness- abounds.
all the best | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Windows-7 ult x32 + SP1 CPU Phenom II x2 Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX Memory 4gb Graphics Card Nvidia GT430 Sound Card n/k Monitor(s) Displays n/k Keyboard MS Curve Mouse PC-line Laser PSU OCZ 500 Hard Drives 1/ Samsung 1Tb
2/ Seagate 1Tb Internet Speed B.T = who knows |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 5,854 posts Philadelphia, PA |
SATA optical drives aren't flaky at all. It's just an interface, so if they are designed for the interface, they'll work fine. Perhaps what TVeblen meant was that early on, some SATA optical drives didn't show up to some burning apps when the SATA ports were set to AHCI, but that's largely a thing of the past.
I've been using Samsung burners for a few years now and they are some of the best drives on the market. If they are loud, then either there's a drive issue, you were using a cheaply made disc, or it wasn't mounted securely in your case.
I would be more concerned with why your last port(s) didn't pick up the drive. That would make me concerned, since it was a nice board. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit 1,158 posts Oklahoma |
One possibility is the port was not enabled in bios. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 730 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core 2 quad Extreme Q9770 @ 3.2 GHz Memory 4x2 GB Muskin 1600 MHz ram Graphics Card NVidia GTX 250 Sound Card Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 2007WFP Ultrascans Screen Resolution 3360 x 1050 Keyboard MS Natrual Keyboard Pro Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball PSU 1000 Watt Cooling air Hard Drives WD Black 1TB sata, 2-WD Black 500 sata, 2-Seagate 500 Go external Internet Speed DSL Elite |
31 May 2012
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| | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 4,145 posts In The Woods |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost Perhaps what TVeblen meant was that early on, some SATA optical drives didn't show up to some burning apps when the SATA ports were set to AHCI, but that's largely a thing of the past. Hey Deacon - I have run into SATA optical drives that have a hard time being recognized by the system. Granted, few and far between. But for reasons I have never figured out the system seems to "run past" the drive during a cold start (for lack of a better explanation). The drive does not get enumerated. But then it does on a restart. If I put in a different drive then all is OK.
I'm guessing that with today's fast booting systems the older controllers in these optical drives are too slow to communicate with the BIOS in time. But it could just be bad luck and a defective drive too.
Whenever I run across people or parts that puzzle me I guess I just categorize them as "flaky" and move on  . | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
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