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Windows 7: Help / Advices on SSD.


09 Jun 2012   #1

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 
Help / Advices on SSD.

Hello again, sorry for all the questions. So, recently, I am planning on getting a new PC but has a limited budget. I want to be able to at least game on D3 and other modern games with at least the decent settings so, here are the parts;

Mainboard & Processor: MSI Z77A-G43 (i5-3570K)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600.9 (4GB x 2)
Graphics Card: MSI N560GTX TI Twin Frozr II OC (1GB)
HDD: Western Digital Black (1TB) [Just the cheap end one, not the 10,000 RPM.]
SSD: Intel 2.5” 330 (60GB)
PSU: Seasonic S12ii (620W)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 (USB 3.0)
MISC.: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

I would like to ask, is there any tips and tricks when installing the OS and since I am only getting a small volume SSD, I will have to install stuffs on the WD HDD, is there any 'problems' I will face when installing to a not default location?

Rather new to these, please help, thanks .

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09 Jun 2012   #2

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I have an 80GB SSD ... I install everything to it ... the trick is to turn off the page file and the hibernation file. That will free up about 16GB. I've only used 25GB of space ...
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09 Jun 2012   #3

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pcunite View Post
I have an 80GB SSD ... I install everything to it ... the trick is to turn off the page file and the hibernation file. That will free up about 16GB. I've only used 25GB of space ...
I think I will be installing quite a handful of applications that would be quite big so I think I would rather play save to install applications and fetch data from other HDD. But still, thank you for the tips on the disabling of page file and hibernation file.
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09 Jun 2012   #4

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post

I would like to ask, is there any tips and tricks when installing the OS and since I am only getting a small volume SSD, I will have to install stuffs on the WD HDD, is there any 'problems' I will face when installing to a not default location?
Reduce the space allotted to System Restore.

Eliminate hibernation if you don't use it. That saves space equal to the amount of RAM--8 gb in your case.

Put the page file on the HDD.

Use proper maintenance to keep the SSD free of unnecessary clutter.

Unless you have an unusual situation, you should be able to get all applications on the SSD.
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09 Jun 2012   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I run several desktops with 60GB SSDs and never had a space problem (although I have a LOT of programs installed - no games though).

I put all my user files on the HDD, reduce the pagefile to 2GB and get rid of the hiberfile. Other than that there is nothing else required.

If you have large games, you might want to direct them to the HDD also. Only games that make a frequent acces to the disk may be better on the SSD.
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10 Jun 2012   #6

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Thank you everyone for the helpful feedback.

I will take note of the hibernation file and the page file allocation. But by proper maintenance, does it means that I have to do frequent CCleaner and Disk Fragment that kind of thing? The last I did it to this current computer of mine, it resulted in a BSOD and keep doing that chkdisk kind of thing. Is there any special software to do this or is the Windows default Disk Fragment good enough for the proper job? Sorry and thank you.
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10 Jun 2012   #7

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
Thank you everyone for the helpful feedback.

I will take note of the hibernation file and the page file allocation. But by proper maintenance, does it means that I have to do frequent CCleaner and Disk Fragment that kind of thing? The last I did it to this current computer of mine, it resulted in a BSOD and keep doing that chkdisk kind of thing. Is there any special software to do this or is the Windows default Disk Fragment good enough for the proper job? Sorry and thank you.
Windows Disk Defrag is fine. Don't defrag the SSD. Use the default schedule of once per week on your other drives.

You can use Windows Disk Cleanup or CCleaner to remove unnecessary files from your system. Once a month or once a quarter is fine. Many people don't use either. Nearly everyone here would tell you to NOT clean the registry.

Proper maintenance also means not installing unneeded programs and proper uninstallation when you decide to get rid of a program.

You don't need any special software. CCleaner is optional. Some people use Revo Uninstaller to remove applications, but that is optional also.
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10 Jun 2012   #8

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Intel also has a Toolbox program you might find useful

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=18455

A Guy
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10 Jun 2012   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

The one file that has a tendency to grow all the time is winsxs. That comes from installing and uninstalling programs all the time. winsxs (or the underlying files) keep the .dlls that each program brings with it and when you uninstall that program those .dlls remain. No uninstaller - even not Revo - can remove those. The only way to get rid of them is to make a fresh installation of the OS.

So the lesson is to refrain from installing programs that are not really needed. A 'normal' winsxs file is around 5GB. That covers the basic .dlls and those needed for an average installed set of programs. But winsxs can easily grow to 15GB if programs are often installed (even if they are being uninstalled later). That is no problem on a 500GB or 1TB HDD, but on a small 60GB SSD it can get tight.
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10 Jun 2012   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Going from what WHS said, install ONLY what you absolutely must have on the host machine. Test and play with all other software in a virtual machine.
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