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Windows 7: CPU with high temps!

17 Jul 2012   #21
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Personally I am a bit confused here as to what is actually broken - if it is a socket pin I cannot for the life of me see how it can be glued in. I was under the impression that socket was part of the mobo?

As for cleaning I always use the Arctic cleaning set Arctic Silver Incorporated - ArctiClean it contains the primer for the thermal and I find it is easier to apply the thermal after one uses that. If you have ever used it you would have noticed that even after the "clean" process you still get some "colour" come off with the primer.

Now Night Hawk I think mentioned a very valid point re the heatsink itself id it really clean? (the fins I am talking about) as not only dust builds up on it but also a certain amount of grease form the air itself and to be sure I always clean the fan blades thoroughly and apply that car interior vinyl protection stuff to make the air flow better by decreasing the air friction over the blades.
A bit overkill I expect to hear but I have tested the results and found even tiny measure like that improve the temp by 1-2C in some instances.


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17 Jul 2012   #22
TBoyd

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

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Lol @ some of the replies.
I would get a new cooler.
FYI, q6600 doesn't have CPU pins. The pins are in the mobo socket.
I already bought one on eBay... i am waiting for it! xD
Do you think i need to apply new thermal compound or the one that already comes with the heatsink is enough?!

(i bought AGAIN one with 4 push pins,people would think "this dude is stupid or just love his money as Scrooge Macduck!") xD



I don't think you're "stupid" for buying another one with push pins - Maybe a little slow to learn your lesson?

I went through the exact same problem a couple of years ago, and I'll NEVER go back to the push pin mounts! Thermal paste is definitely important, but if the heatsink is not making solid, tight contact with the CPU, it will never run at its coolest!
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17 Jul 2012   #23
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I think thermal paste is essential not just important. The CPU top and the heat sink are not machined perfectly flat. Look at the heat sinks that include copper coils. The thermal past is just to overcome the surface detects but it still has a thermal resistance - so keep it thin.
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17 Jul 2012   #24
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

A good deal of the time someone will apply too much paste and spoil the day. As for cleaning off the sink and cpu both I would generally have used a denatured alcohol if the paste had adhered. After 2yrs. however the paste looked just like it had been just applied. That was with AS-5 by the way.

As for the app of MX-4 that was only on for a few days when going back to AS-5 again. Depite not having used a cleaner the 35C is being seen even following the swap out of cpus just seen. But that was only found with Artic Silver not any other paste like Zalman as one example.

The droplet of whatever paste you use however does have to be applied in a layer thinner then a piece of 11 x 8 paper in order to see the heat transfer take place. If you smear a large glob of paste on you'll run into problems right away.

As for seeing the hsf sitting down flush I ended buying more new memory lately to replace the Mushkin Enhanced dimms that sit about 1/4" higher then any other memory pressing up against the underside of the large Zalman in used here. But they were the only 1.5v memory found at the time forcing me to grab a totally different hsf now being used on another case recycling that out.

Besides the paste if you lack good air flow no matter what you try the temps will climb! I'll have to try Icit2lol's idea on vinyl interior protection since the cases here run 200cm top fans as well as twin front 120s and a 120 rear exhaust. Dust clings to fan blades like an epoxy glue would!
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17 Jul 2012   #25
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hum Night Hawk I think you will find a noticeable difference because of the reduced friction of the air over not just the blades but the venturi they spin in. I am not sure of the increase in cubu=ic capacity that this results in as I do not have menas of measuring it.

In my experience the vinyl clean stuff las well as that Mr.Sheen furniture polish also reduces the static caused by the air friction (and particulates) and hence the build up on the blades and venturi of the fans.

I think I aid before whenever I do a fix I always do all the fans including the PSU one which seems to attract a lot of dust.

However Gary and i have been working on some simple filter systems for coolers and the case intakes that are cheap easy to make and well are just throw away items at the end of the day.

As for the thermal I did suggest to Arctic re increasing the surface area of the heatsink and the processor spreader by introducing a corrugated surface. For example say the surface area at present is - just for example 4cm2 then making that surface slightly corrugated would probably increase the surface area to 5cmc2 = larger area = larger heat transfer.
I got the idea from the fact that the human brain is convoluted to increase it's surface area therefore increasing the number of neurones within that cortex tissue.
However I guess it will never happen because of the production difficulties, and I suppose the top of the processor spreader we see is not actually that large is it? .
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17 Jul 2012   #26
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Another common item most are not even aware to repel dust is used in laundry! The antistatic wipes you toss into a clothes dryer to prevent static cling with clothes are used to wipe down fan blades. With the dust being repelled you drastically reduce the buildup of dust on any surface.
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18 Jul 2012   #27
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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Another common item most are not even aware to repel dust is used in laundry! The antistatic wipes you toss into a clothes dryer to prevent static cling with clothes are used to wipe down fan blades. With the dust being repelled you drastically reduce the buildup of dust on any surface.
Hum thanks Night Hawk for the heads up have never used them before as I don't do a lot of washing these days LOL!! But I am going to get some
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18 Jul 2012   #28
dwarfer66

 

My old Q6600 (G0) used to run at about 50c, but never got above 60c in any app or game, with standard cooling.
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18 Jul 2012   #29
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

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Another common item most are not even aware to repel dust is used in laundry! The antistatic wipes you toss into a clothes dryer to prevent static cling with clothes are used to wipe down fan blades. With the dust being repelled you drastically reduce the buildup of dust on any surface.
Hum thanks Night Hawk for the heads up have never used them before as I don't do a lot of washing these days LOL!! But I am going to get some
Those are good to use on tv sets as well as lightly wiping lcd monitor casings. With all the static cling consumer electronics devices are nothing more then dust magnets where wiping the surfaces will help in seeing the dust buildup repelled to some extent.

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My old Q6600 (G0) used to run at about 50c, but never got above 60c in any app or game, with standard cooling.
I assume that would be using the stock sink/fan over buying an alternative. With a stock hsf you would expect to see into the high 40s and low 50s with load. But anything above 60C is getting hot and too close for comfort to the cpu threshold!

How good is the air flow in the case itself? Getting that cooler air to come into the case will start seeing temps drop fast! Adding an extra fan or two would be an idea if the case allows for it.
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