| Windows 7: Would you reccomend applying MS KB article for powering down USB Ports |
27 Jul 2012
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#1 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 Mexico |
Would you reccomend applying MS KB article for powering down USB Ports Hi again people!!!
After finally replacing my old PSU I can use my external HDD in both my laptop and destop machines, but, since a time ago, I notice that XP is able to power down devices you safely remove, but Windows 7 is not... and everytime I use Windows 7 with my external, I gotta unplug the cable (just of course after safely removing) with the power still going through the HDD... and it sounds weirdly when doing so...
Sometimes windows will tell the disk has errors even if I safely removed the hardware and I guess it's because of this, however, the disk is not damaged (fortunately).
Looking for solutions I found this KB article from microsoft: USB Port Remains Active for Disabled or Safely Removed USB Device
They say this behaviour is intenden on Windows 7 and even Vista, but I really fear that the HD can be fisically damaged if I cannot get it to spin down before fisical removal...
The question here, is, would you reccomend to apply this fix? will I have problems if doing so? Anyone has tested this and used this fix?
Thanks in advance for your help and answers.
See ya!! | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled Desktop PC OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual Core CPU @ 2.7 Ghz (Brisbane) Motherboard PCChips A13G+ v3.0 Memory 2x2 GB DDR2 PC-5300 (667 Mhz) Kingston ValueRAM Graphics Card XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 GPU (512 MB + 512 MB HM) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S Monitor(s) Displays HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 px Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard Silent Key Feature Mouse Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device PSU Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU Case Compaq 5BW353 Case Cooling Many solutions, see other info... Hard Drives Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk) Internet Speed 2 MB Other Info Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 |
27 Jul 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
If Windows is reporting drive errors the fast solution would be running the Check Disk tool. You can see that scheduled to run in two ways rather then disable the usb bus.
1) Right click on the drive's icon in Windows Explorer to bring up the properties screen and open the Tools tab. Click on the Check now button und error checking.
2) Open up a command prompt and type in "chkdsk /r" which will then see the "disk check scheduled for next startup" confirmation.
This will repair basic file system errors. If you ran a diagnostics tool and no hardware errors were found like bad sectors this should clean up the rest while it may take a several minutes on the next startup. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
27 Jul 2012
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 Mexico |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk If Windows is reporting drive errors the fast solution would be running the Check Disk tool. You can see that scheduled to run in two ways rather then disable the usb bus.
1) Right click on the drive's icon in Windows Explorer to bring up the properties screen and open the Tools tab. Click on the Check now button und error checking.
2) Open up a command prompt and type in "chkdsk /r" which will then see the "disk check scheduled for next startup" confirmation.
This will repair basic file system errors. If you ran a diagnostics tool and no hardware errors were found like bad sectors this should clean up the rest while it may take a several minutes on the next startup. Thanks for the answer
Already did, no errors found, even ran HDD Regenerator (I'm a complete paranoid XD) and no bad sectors found... but, everytime I eject the HDD using safe removal, the disk keeps spinning, and sometimes when plugged back brings the dialog with the options to check the disk for errors, In XP this doesn't happen O_o...
Would you reccomend applying the fix from microsoft? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled Desktop PC OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual Core CPU @ 2.7 Ghz (Brisbane) Motherboard PCChips A13G+ v3.0 Memory 2x2 GB DDR2 PC-5300 (667 Mhz) Kingston ValueRAM Graphics Card XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 GPU (512 MB + 512 MB HM) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S Monitor(s) Displays HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 px Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard Silent Key Feature Mouse Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device PSU Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU Case Compaq 5BW353 Case Cooling Many solutions, see other info... Hard Drives Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk) Internet Speed 2 MB Other Info Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 |
27 Jul 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
When you disable the usb bus entirely forget the use of any usb mouse and/or keyboard as well. You would only use the "Per Device Setting" method not the Global method with the registry edit seen in the article. That part is specific to one device only like the external drive. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
28 Jul 2012
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#5 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 Mexico |
Well, I was forced to use the global setting, as using the "Per device" method did nothing XD... testes with the correc ID and everything... but didn't do, just the global :P
By now, my USB mouse works nicely, and now the HDD spins down whenever is safely removed, I hope I don't receive more errors after this :P
Weird case in here XD...
Thanks for the help.
See ya!! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Assembled Desktop PC OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual Core CPU @ 2.7 Ghz (Brisbane) Motherboard PCChips A13G+ v3.0 Memory 2x2 GB DDR2 PC-5300 (667 Mhz) Kingston ValueRAM Graphics Card XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 GPU (512 MB + 512 MB HM) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Driver ALC660 @ MCP61S Monitor(s) Displays HP S2031 20" LED HD Widescreen Display Monitor Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 px Keyboard Microsoft Wired Keyboard Silent Key Feature Mouse Microsoft USB Lasser Pointing Device PSU Pixxo Transformer 850W 80+ Certification PSU Case Compaq 5BW353 Case Cooling Many solutions, see other info... Hard Drives Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II Hard Disk)
Western Digital Scorpion Blue (250 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II External Hard Disk) Internet Speed 2 MB Other Info Windows Experience Index Result: 3.8 of 7.9.
Cooling solutions:
- AVC @ 2000/5000 RPM Copper Heatpipes (For Athlon 64 X2 6000+ CPU used in an Athlon 64 X2 5200+)
- Rear Fan 80 mm @ 2700 RPM for heat extraction
- Manhatan Chipset Cooler @ 4700/7200 RPM (For nVidia Chipset in MoBo)
- Foxconn @ 2500 RPM (Old Pentium III heatsink fan) in XFX ATI Radeon HD 4350 |
28 Jul 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Well at least you gave it a try to see which would work out for you. Glad the Global option did solve it for you.
Here I have to use the high performance options in the power plan but haven't run into too many problems with usb drives and devices except a stubborn printer or two!  Had a few times when it wouldn't stop the flash drive in at the time where I simply unplugged it anyways. After a restart the problem simply disappeared though. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi Would you reccomend applying MS KB article for powering down USB Ports problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:25 AM. | |