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Windows 7: SSD Performance Confusing

08 Aug 2012   #11
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Thank You...here is what you requested




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08 Aug 2012   #12
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

What do you have on your 1TB hard drive? Have you moved your user folders from the C drive to the 1TB drive?
I'm beginning to be at a loss here. One thing I noticed about your bios is smart on your hard drive is disabled, enable it. It can give you warning if a hard drive is developing problems. Download Data Lifeguard for DOS, the zip file contains an ISO file, extract the ISO or download the ISO version (Zip file will be faster download) burn it to a CD, the instructions are on the download page. Boot into the CD and select your Western Digital and run the tests. If you do not have your user files moved, shut down the computer, disconnect the western Digital and start the computer. You may have to restart a couple of times. See if you see a difference. You can do that even if you have moved your libraries, but windows won't like it because it can't find some files. You will get error messages, but it should be fine, I've done it several times. Also, right click computer, select manage, in the left column select disk management expand the window and adjust the columns so both the top and bottom are visible. Post a screenshot. There are several things here. They are in no particular order. Do them in any order you like. from everything I have seen so far, there seems to be no problem, I am just looking for what's wrong. Even the tests you have shown are a little below what they should be, but you should be much much faster than the boot times you talked about. I have 2 of the same drives as you. When you boot up, when you see the 1st loading windows message, start timing it from there. That is the first time your hard drive comes into play, the rest is your motherboard bios POST process.

If any of that is unclear, don't hesitate to ask. I or someone else will be happy to explain why or how.
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08 Aug 2012   #13
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

I didn't add, remove, or change anything on my HDD, which was the C Drive and has now been designated as the F Drive.

I apologize, but I never updated my system specs after getting this computer. I have updated them just now. The HDD is not a WD but is actually a Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive.

I would imagine that downloading and running the WD utility would make no sense at this point. Is there a utility for Seagate that might accomplish the same thing?

I have attached a screenshot of the disk management screen that you requested.

I set the SMART feature in the BIOS but I didn't see any difference in boot speed and I didn't receive any messages either.

Disconnecting and reconnecting the HDD had some interesting results. I disconnected the data cable, and restarted the computer from being completely off. It took 45 seconds to be at my desktop. I said this must mean something but what? So, I restarted the computer with the HDD still disconnected and it actually took 10 seconds longer than when it was started cold. I reconnected the HDD and started from cold. It only took 45 seconds to be at a loaded desktop. I was beginning to like what I was seeing. Unfortunately, the next time and three times after, when I restarted the computer, it took up to 3 minutes to get to the desktop.

The delay seems to be split between the BIOS screen, which flew by when the computer booted in 45 seconds but the longest delay by far is at the Starting Windows screen. It says starting windows for almost two minutes before the windows logo appears.

Thanks for your help

Rick (Goosegas)


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08 Aug 2012   #14
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Seagate's program is called sea Tools. Seatools for Windows is a program you install, Seatools for dos should be an iso that you burn to a CD and boot from the CD. The dos program will give you the best test as it tests the disk when not in use. It sounds to me that the problem is with your Seagate drive. Whether it is the drive itself or whether it is the OS on the drive I don't know. But, if I understand you correctly, you boot like you are supposed to if the Seagate isn't connected. That says it is an issue with the Seagate drive. If you have another hard drive, try to use that and see if the results are the same. I am also assuming that the firmware on your SSD is up to date. Have you installed IRST? If not, you may try to download it from gigabyte for your motherboard. It is Intels Raid driver but also contains their AHCI driver IaStor. That is the driver I use. And don't worry, you do not have to run raid by installing the IRST. It is just the way to get the Intel AHCI driver. you said when you changed from IDE to AHCI some of the drivers didn't seem to load. Installing IaStor may resolve that issue if it is the problem. Let us know how the tests come out.
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08 Aug 2012   #15
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Actually, I was only able to boot quickly one time when the Seagate was disconnected. The second time while disconnected was slow.

After reconnecting, the first was fast and the second was slow...so I am confused.

I am not saying that the problem is not with the Seagate, although the SSD did boot fast once while the Seagate was connected.

I will try the Sea Tools and see what that shows.

I wasn't able to locate a download for the driver you suggested below:

Have you installed IRST? If not, you may try to download it from gigabyte for your motherboard. It is Intels Raid driver but also contains their AHCI driver IaStor

It seems worth a try along with the sea tools.

If you have a link to the proper driver that would be great.

Thanks Again!!
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09 Aug 2012   #16
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Go here and select your motherboard version. It should be under drivers then sata drivers. It's Intel rapid storage technology.
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09 Aug 2012   #17
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Something doesn't look right in your AS SSD screenshot for the alignment of the drive. It should read as 1024K, I believe.
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09 Aug 2012   #18
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Something doesn't look right in your AS SSD screenshot for the alignment of the drive. It should read as 1024K, I believe.
Deacon, it should read 1024 if you have no system reserved, if you do have the 100MB partition it reads as his does.
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09 Aug 2012   #19
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Deacon, it should read 1024 if you have no system reserved, if you do have the 100MB partition it reads as his does.
Good to know! I install without the 100 MB partition, so mine always read 1024K. Thanks.
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09 Aug 2012   #20
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

I haven't completed the Sea Tools test yet, or installing the drivers you suggested, but since it was a quick and harmless task, I decided to try something someone suggested which was to unplug both of my WD External Drives.

I disconnected them and on startup, my computer reached the desktop in 33 seconds. I clicked on restart and the computer reached the desktop in 30 seconds.

I do not believe that this is the entire issue, or should it be a problem to have Disks connected via USB. Also, since I leave my computer on all the time, I would rather settle for the 2.5 minutes boot time than to have to keep plugging and unplugging my externals.

Lastly, the performance of the drive is decent (SSD), but as you stated it should be better.

I will do the Sea tools and driver install this evening and see if that helps both with and without the External Drives connected. Let me know what you thinks.

Thank You!!!
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