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Windows 7: SSD Performance Confusing

09 Aug 2012   #31
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

You might try running this tutorial Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace And make a new thread in Performance and Maintenance. Cluberti should be along and help read the results.


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09 Aug 2012   #32
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Nice suggestion, Gary. I would be curious to see what AS SSD or ATTO say with only the SSD connected. The numbers he posted in the first post were below what they should be for that drive. But, my 2 year old Intel X25M will never reach those numbers and will boot in 25 seconds. But we have the same drive as him, and we have, or I do, AS SSD benchmarks and ATTO to compare it to. I still really think it is a problem with one of the other drives connected or the switch to AHCI didn't complete. But, I've followed that tutorial a half dozen times and never had a problem.
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10 Aug 2012   #33
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Okay...here is the latest.

I disconnected both WD External HDD's and the Internal Seagate HDD. I also removed every other USB device except for the KB & the mouse.

The computer went from cold off to loaded desktop in 35 seconds. Here is where we have a change....On restart, where it would take 2.5 to 4 minutes, it also took only 35 seconds.

There is absolutely no way I can use my computer the way I need to, if I have to have my External HDD's and my Internal HDD disconnected. It would take considerably too long and too much effort to plug everything back in to save 2 minutes on a restart. Certainly 2-4 minutes with everything connected is better than having to take off the side of my case and then fumble around for cables to get everything reconnected.

Unfortunately I think that the SSD is not performing as it should either. I have attached a screenshot of the AS-SSD test I just ran, WITH ONLY THE SSD CONNECTED. I don't know how bad these numbers are or what light they might shed, but here they are.

By the way, don't ask me why the AS-SSD download was in German...I guess I am just tired. I am sure that all you need is the numbers, the language doesn't matter I'm sure.

Let me know what you think.

Rick


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10 Aug 2012   #34
goosegas

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Seagate's program is called sea Tools. Seatools for Windows is a program you install, Seatools for dos should be an iso that you burn to a CD and boot from the CD. The dos program will give you the best test as it tests the disk when not in use. It sounds to me that the problem is with your Seagate drive. Whether it is the drive itself or whether it is the OS on the drive I don't know. But, if I understand you correctly, you boot like you are supposed to if the Seagate isn't connected. That says it is an issue with the Seagate drive. If you have another hard drive, try to use that and see if the results are the same. I am also assuming that the firmware on your SSD is up to date. Have you installed IRST? If not, you may try to download it from gigabyte for your motherboard. It is Intels Raid driver but also contains their AHCI driver IaStor. That is the driver I use. And don't worry, you do not have to run raid by installing the IRST. It is just the way to get the Intel AHCI driver. you said when you changed from IDE to AHCI some of the drivers didn't seem to load. Installing IaStor may resolve that issue if it is the problem. Let us know how the tests come out.
One more update for the night.

I downloaded and installed the correct IRST driver for my motherboard. Although the restart speed was a little faster...maybe about 1.5 minutes, I now have a driver software installation message telling me that it loaded the driver for my Seagate HDD but is still trying to find drivers for my DVD drive and my SSD. It has been trying for about 10 minutes with no luck.

I will give it a few more minutes. If I restart the computer without it finding these drivers, can I roll this back or should we try to keep this driver and try to fix the driver message?
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10 Aug 2012   #35
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

The AS SSD score is good but a bit low on the 4K read (Lesen) That should be a fine SSD.
I was thinking you had only EXternal drives with USB connections? I think it would be a lot faster to boot in 35 seconds and take 10 seconds to plug in two cables.
FWIW I have a Crucial M4 and it takes 46-57 seconds for a reboot. I never timed a cold start.
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10 Aug 2012   #36
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The 4kb reads on mine usually run between 18-23. Yours are about right for that drive. For comparason here is mine.

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10 Aug 2012   #37
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

AS SSD

Sprache is the language tab. Click Sprache and your choices are Deutsch and Englisch. Click Englisch and it will show everything in English.

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Suggestion.

Plug in the internal HDD only and check restart time. If it is 30 seconds then the internal HDD isn't the problem.

Write down the combinations as tested so you only need to do it once.
Continue plugging in hardware one at a time until the reboot goes to your +2 minutes and that is the culprit.
External hardware I would plug in and if it works properly then unplug it.
Then try the next external.

Then if they all work properly one at a time then their is a clash between two hardware devices.
Plug them in two at a time until you find the two that are not playing nice with each other.

A pain in the behind I realize but the only way I can think of to find the one or two that are problematic.
Process of elimination.

Britton30's suggestion in Post #31 may be a better way to try.
His suggestion or mine or it may take both to narrow the problem down.

Good luck.
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10 Aug 2012   #38
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

The below zip file has the English language pack.

Extract and open new folder. Click the AS SSD exe. emblem to run. Leave the file marked en-US alone. That is the English language pack

It should open and run in English. Mine does so.


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File Type: zip AS SSD Benchmark.zip (258.1 KB, 3 views)
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10 Aug 2012   #39
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Dankeschön Mike! It works perfectly.
My other one didn't even have the en-US file.
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10 Aug 2012   #40
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Dankeschön Mike! It works perfectly.
My other one didn't even have the en-US file.
I figured that the en-US file was missing.
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