| Windows 7: Transferred programs and os to SSD, not what I expected |
28 Aug 2012
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Transferred programs and os to SSD, not what I expected So I just received my Intel 240GB 520 SSD. My intention was to move the Windows, Program Files (x86), and Program Files folders to the SSD hoping that would basically give me the exact same setup except the programs and os launch off the SSD leaving the Users folder and everything else on my HDD.
After migrating the data (paragon software) I booted up on the SSD, the desktop was black it apparently couldn't be found, none of my settings were the same, none of the programs started automatically, directx was 'not found', it was definitely not what i expected, help with this would be great!
thanks | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz 1.35v Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/Gen3 Socket 1155 ATX Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 @ 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Sound Card On-board Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" A221HQV & Dell 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair HX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU cooler; 3x 250mm & 1x 230mm Hard Drives Intel 520 SSD 240GB
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm SATA III 6Gb/s Internet Speed 20MB up, 5MB down Other Info - NETGEAR N600 Dual-band Ethernet Router
- Motorola SURFboard SB6121 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
- Western Digital 2TB MyBook Essential External HDD
- HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One Printer/Scanner/Copier
- Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 2.1 Speaker System |
29 Aug 2012
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#2 | | |
i've tried to use cloning software with ssd's in the past and seen the exact same results as you describe using emc retrospec, similar software for migration.
I can only surmise it's to do with how ssd's manage information.
the only solution i found was to do a clean install, which i must say is recommended for an ssd, otherwise you may end up with odd things happening, you don't want windows trying to defrag an ssd that is suppose to be using trim instead due to it not realising it's on an ssd.
Often times people wish to migrate their OS which is fine if the hardware is the same, switching to an ssd changes things i'm not certain there is any migration software that works well with ssd's some say they support it but they end up with similar results to yourself. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number . OS . CPU . Motherboard . Memory . Graphics Card . Monitor(s) Displays . Screen Resolution . Keyboard . Mouse . PSU . Case . Cooling . Hard Drives . Internet Speed . Other Info . |
29 Aug 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
Take a look at this tutorial by whs for transferring an OS to an SSD. SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System
I recently bought an SSD and transferred the OS using a modified Geeky approach.
I think most people purchase the program to use the Easy way and prefer that approach. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
29 Aug 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
If you used the Paragon Migration tool, that should not have happened. I used it many times with perfect results. Can you describe in a bit more detail what exactly you have done. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
29 Aug 2012
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#5 | | |
Ok, so I installed the ssd in to my PC. I initialized it in disk management, I cleaned it using diskpart, I then used the paragon software I chose to migrate the folders
-Windows
-Program Files (x86)
-Program Files
Leaving the rest in my WD HDD
After migrating I restarted my pc
I entered the bios (I could not change the order of my boot devices, the ssd was not showing up on the boot order so I used the boot menu to choose the ssd for now)
I then booted up and everything I explained above happened. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz 1.35v Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/Gen3 Socket 1155 ATX Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 @ 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Sound Card On-board Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" A221HQV & Dell 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair HX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU cooler; 3x 250mm & 1x 230mm Hard Drives Intel 520 SSD 240GB
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm SATA III 6Gb/s Internet Speed 20MB up, 5MB down Other Info - NETGEAR N600 Dual-band Ethernet Router
- Motorola SURFboard SB6121 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
- Western Digital 2TB MyBook Essential External HDD
- HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One Printer/Scanner/Copier
- Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 2.1 Speaker System |
29 Aug 2012
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Looks like you left a bunch of OS files off. Why don't you transfer the whole OS without selecting specific files. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
29 Aug 2012
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#7 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
It sounds like you only migrated 3 folders to the SSD:
-Windows
-Program Files (x86)
-Program Files
"Leaving the rest in my WD HDD"
The tutorial says to transfer the entire "C:" partition to the SSD Quote: 2.The easy way for transferring the OS requires you to purchase this program. It does everything for you – alignment, deals with the 100MB partition, transfers C:, shrinks the originating partition, etc. All you will have to do is change the boot sequence. I think this what is causing your problem.
I restored entire OS Partitions from Acronis backup images when i migrated to an SSD and had no problems.
Did you use the Paragon program specified in the tutorial, or some other Paragon program?
I'm no expert, so wait for whs to post back. gregrocker is probably the best Windows 7 install expert here so if he gives advice, it is good!
edit: whs beat me to it !
Last edited by DavidW7ncus; 29 Aug 2012 at 10:20 AM..
Reason: edit
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
29 Aug 2012
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#8 | | |
I used the paragon software in that tutorial, but the thing is is that the contents on my HDD is more than the capacity of the SSD, that's why I thought I could just transfer the programs and OS.
-I was under the impression the whole OS was the windows folder?? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz 1.35v Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/Gen3 Socket 1155 ATX Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 @ 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Sound Card On-board Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" A221HQV & Dell 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair HX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU cooler; 3x 250mm & 1x 230mm Hard Drives Intel 520 SSD 240GB
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm SATA III 6Gb/s Internet Speed 20MB up, 5MB down Other Info - NETGEAR N600 Dual-band Ethernet Router
- Motorola SURFboard SB6121 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
- Western Digital 2TB MyBook Essential External HDD
- HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One Printer/Scanner/Copier
- Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 2.1 Speaker System |
29 Aug 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
One way or another you need to get your HD OS down in size to fit into the SSD.
If you store a lot of media files on the OS HD, you can move them to a different partition.
If you're a gamer you may need to uninstall/reinstall games to a different partition.
How much space is used on your HD C: partition, and what data is on it?
Most tech users store data and games on a different partition than the "C:" OS + programs partition.
It sounds like you store everything on the C: partition. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
29 Aug 2012
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#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus One way or another you need to get your HD OS down in size to fit into the SSD.
If you store a lot of media files on the OS HD, you can move them to a different partition.
If you're a gamer you may need to uninstall/reinstall games to a different partition.
How much space is used on your HD C: partition, and what data is on it?
Most tech users store data and games on a different partition than the "C:" OS + programs partition.
It sounds like you store everything on the C: partition. Yeah everything is on my C partition. Right now I have used 376GB of my HDD, if I move most of my media elsewhere, I would just be able to fit my Users, Windows, and both program files folders on the SSD, but then I probably wouldn't be able to install new programs...
I was hoping to put all of my programs on the SSD so they could launch faster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz 1.35v Motherboard Asus P8Z68 V-Pro/Gen3 Socket 1155 ATX Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 @ 1600MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 Sound Card On-board Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" A221HQV & Dell 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming Mouse PSU Corsair HX850 Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU cooler; 3x 250mm & 1x 230mm Hard Drives Intel 520 SSD 240GB
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200rpm SATA III 6Gb/s Internet Speed 20MB up, 5MB down Other Info - NETGEAR N600 Dual-band Ethernet Router
- Motorola SURFboard SB6121 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
- Western Digital 2TB MyBook Essential External HDD
- HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One Printer/Scanner/Copier
- Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 2.1 Speaker System Transferred programs and os to SSD, not what I expected problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 AM. | |