| Windows 7: buying laptop PCIe mini dual band adapter |
13 Sep 2012
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buying laptop PCIe mini dual band adapter Unfortunately, at my school you need a dual band wireless adapter in order to connect to the internet. With my current laptop, there are certain requirements it must meet in order for it to work. - it must be a full height card. An adapter will not work as the antenna wires won't go that far.
- It needs to have 2 antenna ports. I have found a few ones which fit all the other specifications, but they appear to have 3 ports.
- Obviously it must be PCIe-mini and dual band, as stated in the title
Does anyone know what one to get, or even if there is one that meets those specifications? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU i5 2500k @ 4.6GHz Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Memory 4x4GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 5770 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC e2434pw, Dell 20" Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1600x1200 Keyboard Logiteck K300 Mouse Microsoft basic mouse PSU Antec Earthwatts 650w Case Antec 902 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper212+ Hard Drives 1 OCZ vertex II 60GB
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14 Sep 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
Your post is confusing for a few reasons: - Laptops do not have expansion slots, PCIe or otherwise. Everything is expanded through the external ports.
- Very few laptops are made with dual band adapters right now. It is curious that a school would require something that is only available on top end laptops.
- Wires? Network connectivity is done through CAT5 or 6 Ethernet wiring or wirelessly.
- Dual band refers to the frequency of the wireless signal: 2.4GHz or 5GHz.
- The antennas on a wireless device correspond to the channels that the wireless signal is sent out on. 2 antennae do not equal dual band.
- Full height or half height cards are only configurations. The configuration of a card has nothing to do with performance. Where are you going to put a full height card for desktop PC in a laptop?
- PCIe-mini makes a little more sense, but contradicts the earlier need for a full height card. These are opposites.
Perhaps it would be better to explain what you are trying to do. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
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15 Sep 2012
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#3 | | |
1. Yes, I meant PCI-e mini
2. The school provides us laptops for us to use, but they are crap and I don't have privelages to install nessecary programs
3. Antenna wires connect to a pci-e mini wireless card (see here)
4. I know that dual band refers to the frequency. The school runs on 5GHz and my house runs on 2.4GHz, so I need a dual band card.
5. Is what you're saying that 3 antennas are nessecary for dual band? If so, is it possible to add a third antenna wire.
6. I know they are only configurations. In the attatchment is a crappy sketch of the problem. Comparison between full and half height PCI-e | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU i5 2500k @ 4.6GHz Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Memory 4x4GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 5770 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC e2434pw, Dell 20" Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1600x1200 Keyboard Logiteck K300 Mouse Microsoft basic mouse PSU Antec Earthwatts 650w Case Antec 902 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper212+ Hard Drives 1 OCZ vertex II 60GB
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15 Sep 2012
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#4 | | win 7 ultimate nottingham |
Hi Matts1, have a look at this link WLAN Card / Extra Antenna installation - Wireless LAN - LaptopVideo2Go Forums It will give you an idea of what to do and where to obtain the additional wire from | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self build OS win 7 ultimate CPU amd phenom x4 9600 Motherboard asus m2n32-sli deluxe Memory corsair twinxs 2x2gb Graphics Card 2x nvidia 1gb 8500gt Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 19" lg ring tft PSU oryxx tornado 750w Case thermaltake xaser lll Cooling artic freezer64 pro + 7 case fans Hard Drives maxtor sata 500gb
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15 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |

Quote: Originally Posted by Matts1 4. I know that dual band refers to the frequency. The school runs on 5GHz and my house runs on 2.4GHz, so I need a dual band card. If you don't have the privileges to install stuff on the laptops, even if you place a dual-band mini-pcie wifi adapter you won't be able to install drivers. So it's pointless.
What about buying a dual band router for your home?
Also, what about asking the IT guys of your school? Thay may be able to do something for free. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 Quad-Core (a revision without the bug) Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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15 Sep 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
This is the type of USB connected device you would use to add dual band wireless connectivity to a laptop: WNDA4100
There is no need for wires.
As I stated previously, the antennae on routers and wireless adapters only receive the radio signal through the air. The frequency of that signal, 2.4GHz or 5GHz, is generated inside the router. The antennae do not determine the frequency.
The "PCI-e wireless card" you show in that picture is actually the laptop's "Wireless Adapter". Yes it is a card, but it is an integral part of the laptop. That adapter must be a dual band adapter in order to receive signals on both bands. Adding more antennae wires to it will not change it from a single band adapter to a dual band adapter. That can only be done on the adapter's circuit board.
You may be able to get a replacement adapter for that laptop that is dual band, but don't count on every manufacturer having one.
bobafetthotmail's idea of talking to the IT guys at your school is a very good one. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
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15 Sep 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Your current antennas are likely only 2.4 GHz antennas. Even if you find a dual band card that fits, your antennas won't support the 5 GHz band. As far as I know it has nothing to do with how many antennas there are. My DIR-655 has three antennas but it only works on the 2.4 GHz band. The third antenna just gives it another MIMO stream to play with. Its my understanding that dual band Routers and adapters have dual band antennas. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
16 Sep 2012
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#8 | | |
Thanks alphanumeric. I didn't realise that my current 2 may not support dual band.
Pebbly, thanks, I read that post and it seemed very useful. The only issue is, I don't trust myself to install another 3 antenna leads, so I think I will end up going with TVemblem's solution instead.
PS. I wanted the dual band on another old laptop I have (not school laptop, it already has dual band) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU i5 2500k @ 4.6GHz Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Memory 4x4GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 5770 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC e2434pw, Dell 20" Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1600x1200 Keyboard Logiteck K300 Mouse Microsoft basic mouse PSU Antec Earthwatts 650w Case Antec 902 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper212+ Hard Drives 1 OCZ vertex II 60GB
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16 Sep 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
How do all the other students make their laptops do what you are trying to do?
The OP's post #3 2. The school provides us laptops for us to use, but they are crap and I don't have privelages to install nessecary programs | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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16 Sep 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
@ Layback Bear, The way I read it the OP doesn't want to use the school provided laptop because its restricted in what can be installed on it. He is trying to modify his own laptop so he can connect to the school network and use it instead. The school provided laptops connect fine without any modifications. His laptop won't because the school uses the 5 GHz band, which his laptop doesn't have. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 buying laptop PCIe mini dual band adapter problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 AM. | |