| Windows 7: Do I need more ram? |
21 Sep 2012
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Do I need more ram? I have a HP Probook 4530s laptop with Intel i5 processor, 4 gb ram, and 500 gb hdd.
It is a decent computer, but lately I have been having issues. I am an amateur photographer, and use Photoshop CS6 and Lightroom 4 often. I need to perform a lot of big tasks while editing pictures, and lately whenever I do this my computer goes to shit. These Adobe programs slow my computer down to unusable speeds, I often need to restart more than once, and lately I can't get anything done. It is only when using these high-memory programs, Photoshop and Lightroom.
Would adding more ram help or not? I am new to updating hardware, so I don't know what to do. But I would much rather fix this computer instead of buying a new one. Speeding up my workflow would help me a ton.
Thanks for any help | My System Specs |
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21 Sep 2012
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4gb should be enough for most things.
Are you even using 64 bit windows with this computer?
As you've listed your operating system as Colorado I'm having a hard time coming to a conclusion on that, and my magic eight ball just keeps saying ask again later...
A SSD would probably be the largest speed boost you could get for the specific applications you are talking about. Improving the amount of memory could provide a minor boost to speed as well. Based on what I've heard from others that use photoshop heavily a solid state drive makes a massive difference with it.
The best way to determine if ram really is your bottleneck would be to wait until it's being slow while one of said apps is running then pop to the performance tab of task manager to see what the memory usage looks like at that moment.
The attached is a example shot of what I'm talking about. Obviously even my backup machine is beefier than the vast majority of laptops, but that little bar there is measuring the memory in use. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-) OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3 Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866 Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga) Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080) Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2) Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack) PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan Cooling Zalmann Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA) Internet Speed depends on if you ask me or my provider. Other Info The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism. |
22 Sep 2012
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#3 | | |
Yep, I have 64 bit. I must have thought operating system meant location for some reason. | My System Specs | | |
22 Sep 2012
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#4 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional |
Adobe recommends a multidisk environment for their PS and PR products, perhaps an external disk plugged in the usb3 header for scratch and temp files? | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled. |
22 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by ianaf Yep, I have 64 bit. I must have thought operating system meant location for some reason. So what did you find out about your RAM usage per Maguscreed's recommendation to look in Task Manager?
More RAM won't help if all current RAM isn't being used, and we don't know if it is. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
22 Sep 2012
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#6 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
With the type of work you are doing, you will benefit greatly from a SSD.
You will also benefit from using the maximum amout of memory that the laptop permits.
Quite often, the various programs that startup, that run, that are scheduled to run are a problem.
Please carry out following: Install CCleaner: CCleaner - PC Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download list of STARTUP PROGRAMS
CCleaner | Tools icon | Startup button | Windows tab |
click on Save to text file button (bottom right side) |
accept Startup.txt as file name | SAVE button list of SCHEDULED TASKS
CCleaner | Tools icon | Startup button | Scheduled Tasks tab |
click on Save to text file button (bottom right side) |
enter Scheduled Tasks as File name | Save button List of INSTALLED PROGRAMS
CCleaner | Tools icon | Uninstall button |
click on Save to text file button (bottom right side) |
accept install.txt as File name | Save button UPLOAD, as an attachment, the startup.txt file UPLOAD, as an attachment, the Scheduled Tasks.txt file UPLOAD, as an attachment, the install.txt file.
HOW TO UPLOAD Post a File or Screenshot in Seven Forums | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
22 Sep 2012
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#7 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by ianaf Yep, I have 64 bit. I must have thought operating system meant location for some reason. So what did you find out about your RAM usage per Maguscreed's recommendation to look in Task Manager?
More RAM won't help if all current RAM isn't being used, and we don't know if it is. Well usually the memory says about 1.5 gb, when I was running photoshop it was about 2.3? So it might be a different problem other than memory. | My System Specs | | |
22 Sep 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Photoshop version OS version Maximum amount of RAM that Photoshop can use CS4, CS5, 32 bit Windows 32 bit 1.7 GB CS4, CS5, 32 bit Windows 64 bit 3.2 GB CS4, CS5, 64 bit* Windows 64 bit As much RAM as you can fit in your computer Optimize performance | Photoshop CS4, CS5, CS6
-------------------------- Just though this information might help. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
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