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Windows 7: SSD partition...behavior!

23 Sep 2012   #11
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paulobao View Post
Thanks all :-)
Ignatz, could you tell me your partition scheme?

Cheers,
paulo
Here is a pic.

It's about as simple as you can get.

Three separate internal drives: System, Data, Backup. System is an SSD. The other 2 are HDD.

One partition on each: C, D, and E. All partitions are primary.

No system reserved.

C is imaged periodically. D is backed up to E without using an image.

My images of C are stored on D just like all other data. The images are backed up to E just like all other data.

I also back up D to an external drive via a dock every other month.. And I back up my most critical text file data (about 6 GB) to a USB stick 3 or 4 times a year.




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23 Sep 2012   #12
paulobao

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Thanks Ignatz!
So you have 3 separate discs :-) That is cool :-) Unfortunatelly my laptop only have one disc :-(.
Since I do not keep much data in my laptop (when I have new data I copy/paste it to external USB HDDs) maybe I can keep it simple and only have a plain, no partition disk! And I will image frequentely this disk to an external HDD (dedicated only to backup images)!

Cheers,
paulo
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23 Sep 2012   #13
ignatzatsonic

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One question: when you make an image of your system this includes all you need to recover the system to the exact same state as when you made the image? I mean all sw installed will be reinstalled from the image including all the settings, preferences, etc?
Yes. That's the premise.

The only fly in the ointment is that images do not always restore, so you need to have another plan in case they don't.

Keeping Windows in one partition and data in another means that your images of C will not contain data and will therefore be smaller.

A separate partition for data also helps in this scenario:

Suppose all your data is on C and you make an image of C on October 1.

On October 2, you produce a bunch of data and keep it on C with all other data.

Suppose your hard drive fails on October 3. You buy a new drive and restore the October 1 image.

In that scenario, the data produced October 2 is lost---unless you had it separately backed up.

If the data was not on C, it would not be over-written by the restoration of the October 1 image.
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23 Sep 2012   #14
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
One question: when you make an image of your system this includes all you need to recover the system to the exact same state as when you made the image? I mean all sw installed will be reinstalled from the image including all the settings, preferences, etc?

Answer is YES. Just make sure you also image the little system partition along with the C partition - else your system cannot boot when this is corrupted. This system partition has to be imaged only once because it never changes (unless you go to double boot). Put it into a seperate folder so that it does not get mixed up.
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23 Sep 2012   #15
paulobao

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Yes I see that! But As I told you I usually copy/paste the data to an external HDD as soon (well, in the same day!) I get it!But yes, maybe a small data partition will not hurt! And data should I put in this data partition? My docs, favorites,...any thing, data wise speaking, more deep? Ex: app data? The "location transfer" from C to D do not will cause any problems? How should I correctly do this?paulo
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23 Sep 2012   #16
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

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I would not disable the page file completely. If you do, you will not be able to get any memory dumps incase of problems.
Sound advice.

That page file does not hurt you.
The page file does help you.
Anyone who has any doubt should research the recent literature.
I've got links somewhere for this but I'll let the doubters do their homework.
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23 Sep 2012   #17
paulobao

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
One question: when you make an image of your system this includes all you need to recover the system to the exact same state as when you made the image? I mean all sw installed will be reinstalled from the image including all the settings, preferences, etc?

Answer is YES. Just make sure you also image the little system partition along with the C partition - else your system cannot boot when this is corrupted. This system partition has to be imaged only once because it never changes (unless you go to double boot). Put it into a seperate folder so that it does not get mixed up.
Thanks! My laptop have a strange partition system!There is a 1.47 GB at left of C and a 14 GB recovery at right!
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23 Sep 2012   #18
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

paulobao,
don't worry about a 100 mb system recovery partition. Just leave it be as it is.
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23 Sep 2012   #19
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paulobao View Post
Yes I see that! But As I told you I usually copy/paste the data to an external HDD as soon (well, in the same day!) I get it!But yes, maybe a small data partition will not hurt! And data should I put in this data partition? My docs, favorites,...any thing, data wise speaking, more deep? Ex: app data? The "location transfer" from C to D do not will cause any problems? How should I correctly do this?paulo
There's no particular reason to make a data partition on the SSD.

In fact, if the ORIGINAL versions of most of your data is on an external, I'd keep it all on the external and use the SSD only for Windows, with no data anywhere on the SSD.

It makes backup a lot simpler if ALL data is on ONE partition. Then you just back up that one partition to some other physically separate drive.

If on the other hand the original versions of most data is on the SSD, I would put all data on the SSD---but in a separate partition.

I'm just not sure where you keep your original data---but there's no reason to keep it on multiple partitions if it will fit on one partition.
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23 Sep 2012   #20
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paulobao View Post
Yes I see that! But As I told you I usually copy/paste the data to an external HDD as soon (well, in the same day!) I get it!But yes, maybe a small data partition will not hurt! And data should I put in this data partition? My docs, favorites,...any thing, data wise speaking, more deep? Ex: app data? The "location transfer" from C to D do not will cause any problems? How should I correctly do this?paulo
Only your own data files - no system files like AppData.
For moving the folders, you can use this: User Folders - Change Default Location
But you can also create new folders in the data partition and INCLUDE those into the library. Then move your data folders. I prefer that solution.
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