| Windows 7: SSD partition...behavior! |
22 Sep 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
SSD partition...behavior! Hi,
Now that my first SSD (urrah) is installed and my laptop is running smoothly (after SSD hardawre install. I restore my Laptop to factory state! Thaen I removed all bloatware/apps I do not use...it is a Toshiba!). Checked and rechecked, and everyting is OK and better  .
Now I will pass to phase 2: PARTITION of my SSD (a Plextor M5P 512GB).
- I'm going to remove the System Recovery (because I have 2 copys of it in DVDs plus a copy in a 16 GB USB Flash drive. And it was with one of this copys that I restore the laptop to factory state).
-I'm going to create 2 partitions:
- one for data (32 GB): DATA
- one for the last stable image created with my Image software: SYSTEM RECOVERY
Of course I will copys of those in a portable external HDD!
My question is:
When I make partitions to the SSD, is there is an impact to the SSD?
Exemple: imagine I have a 512 GB ssd and I make a partition of 6 GB. Since SSD have a limited writes and those are proportional to the capacity of the disk, will the 6 GB partition have lesser writes that the main partition? Or, even is the ssd is partitioned, writes cycles will be not affected?
Thanks for your time and I will appreciate the comments,
cheers,
paulo | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
22 Sep 2012
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
write cycles is per flash cell, so yes, the partition that is written more will wear out more.
Still, I've seen modern SDD tested and they can last well beyond the computer they are in, for home use.
So, unless you are writing 5 GB of data per day for years, cells wearing out is a non-issue.
Btw, disable the page file (virtual memory). You have enough RAM to not really need it, and that degrades the drive faster (if used anyway). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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22 Sep 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8 Pro x64 Florida, USA |
I would not disable the page file completely. If you do, you will not be able to get any memory dumps incase of problems. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU INTEL Core i7 3820 LGA 2011 Motherboard Gigabyte GA X79 UD5 v1.0 F13s Memory 16 GB (4 X 4GB) G-Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2133 Quad Channel Graphics Card EVGA GTX 460 SC 1GB Sound Card Realtek Onboard ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung BX2431 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Explorer Mouse PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling INTEL BXRTS2011LC Liquid-cooled Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 120GB 2.5 in. SSD FW 1.5
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23 Sep 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
23 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Hum bit late now paulo but I have a couple of Toshiba's and put an OEM on both with SSD's and you would probably been better off spending another $100 for an OEM as this negates any need for clearing of the bloat.
I suppose another way would have been to get an ISO of 7 booted from it and used your original activation code to activate.
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23 Sep 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by paulobao - one for the last stable image created with my Image software: SYSTEM RECOVERY There's nothing inherently wrong with making a partition to hold images, but there's no particular reason to do it either.
It's just unnecessary, further subdivides your drive, and may complicate your backup strategy. It's not the most efficient use of the total space available on a drive.
I'd just treat the images like any other valuable data and keep them on my regular data partition in an "images" folder---and back them up along with everything else on the data partition. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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23 Sep 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Thanks all :-)
Ignatz, could you tell me your partition scheme?
Cheers,
paulo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
23 Sep 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 The North Star state |
Quote: I'd just treat the images like any other valuable data and keep them on my regular data partition in an "images" folder---and back them up along with everything else on the data partition. Hi paulo. I think what he meant was that you only need two partitions, one for the OS and the other for the data. It makes system imaging neater that way, as any images you create of the "C" partition will only contain the OS and not all your other data. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 CPU Intel i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft 3 button PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
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23 Sep 2012
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#9 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Nothing wrong with a data partition. Just make sure you backup your data frequently. Once that is lost, you cannot recover it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
23 Sep 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Hi,
I've laptops (I only have desktops at work) from 1997 and never lost any bit of data! But I never used a backup software!!! I use my computers for the processing part (I do astronomy/astrophotography): controlling all my astronomy gear, processing all the data, etc! What I do is:
- when I download new data to my laptop, I just copy/paste it to at least 1 external HDD (usually 2 or even 3)
- when I process all the data and have the "results" I copy/paste it the same way
- when I download tutorials, pdfs, etc from the web, I copy/paste too..
- my favorites: copy/paste it to the external hdd
Well, I think you see what I do! And for that I think I do not need any special software (I want to keep it simple and I do not want anything working in the background...at least in this respect!)
So, I do not keep much data in my computer anyway! And the data I keep is already in a external hdd too!
Like this, I would ask you if you find that I would be better served with a data partition? (because I never had one just a unique partition!)
Of course my main concern now is about imaging! Because I restore my laptop 2 weeks ago to the factory state because I did not have any way to recover my lap to point in time where everything was fine!!! And I had dozens of GB of SW installed with the settings/preferences as I liked :-(. So I do not want to go this way again and I'm doing all to avoid this in the case a crash/major crash happens again!
Saying this, I never restorede/recovered a computer! Hope if/when I need it all will pass ok!
One question: when you make an image of your system this includes all you need to recover the system to the exact same state as when you made the image? I mean all sw installed will be reinstalled from the image including all the settings, preferences, etc?
Many thanks,
paulo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm SSD partition...behavior! problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 PM. | |