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Windows 7: New Motherboard and CPU problems

14 Oct 2012   #11
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Now I think I must have it wrong as I was under the impression that this machine first had a Gigabyte board in it and the OS was installed on it?

But now am I right in saying that the Gigabyte board set up would install the OS but not load the system.

That the Giga board was then taken out and the MSI board and CPU were then installed and then the HDD with the OS installed originally put on it put in the machine and expected to run?

Because it seems to get very confusing indeed. Because if now the OP has installed the MSI board and hooked up the HDD that was originally hooked up to the Giga board when the OS was installed on it means that he is trying to get a board to work that the OS is not tied to.


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14 Oct 2012   #12
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Now I think I must have it wrong as I was under the impression that this machine first had a Gigabyte board in it and the OS was installed on it?

But now am I right in saying that the Gigabyte board set up would install the OS but not load the system.

That the Giga board was then taken out and the MSI board and CPU were then installed and then the HDD with the OS installed originally put on it put in the machine and expected to run?

Because it seems to get very confusing indeed. Because if now the OP has installed the MSI board and hooked up the HDD that was originally hooked up to the Giga board when the OS was installed on it means that he is trying to get a board to work that the OS is not tied to.
Any way you skin it, changing motherboards means reloading the OS. And it seems like there is at least one MB swap in this story. We are still partially right, I think lol
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14 Oct 2012   #13
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Now I think I must have it wrong as I was under the impression that this machine first had a Gigabyte board in it and the OS was installed on it?

But now am I right in saying that the Gigabyte board set up would install the OS but not load the system.

That the Giga board was then taken out and the MSI board and CPU were then installed and then the HDD with the OS installed originally put on it put in the machine and expected to run?

Because it seems to get very confusing indeed. Because if now the OP has installed the MSI board and hooked up the HDD that was originally hooked up to the Giga board when the OS was installed on it means that he is trying to get a board to work that the OS is not tied to.
Any way you skin it, changing motherboards means reloading the OS. And it seems like there is at least one MB swap in this story. We are still partially right, I think lol
I've done 10 motherboard and CPU swaps so far and windows 7 was able to boot up and run fine. The latest one was a few days ago, amd phenom x4 setup to an i5 ivy bridge.
We upgraded our fathers machine for his birthday.

Sounds like the op needs to go into the bios and switch the sata mode from ahci to IDE.
I experienced the same issue with 2 of the swaps.
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14 Oct 2012   #14
Mcshirtbubble

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I have just trued to start it up to try and run the BIOS to see if I could change the start-up sequence, and there is no image on thw monitor or lights on my keyboard or mouse. Now I have no idea what to do
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14 Oct 2012   #15
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well MC looks like the mobo BIOS is cooked mate.

I would like just out of curiosity now to see in point form the chain of events as in

1. Built the machine with a Giga board the CPU HDD etc etc
2. Installed OS on this build.
3. Realised the CPU was wrong.
4. Changed the board and on it installed the original CPU RAM and that original HDD
5. Fired it up - it ran
6. Then tried to update the BIOS
7. Machine crashed.

Now at point 5. if the OP had asked Microsoft to re ID the mobo then things would be sweet? The problem comes at point 6 from trying to flash that BIOS?? In which case like someone else said unless you are particularly good at soldering the chances of recovering that board are slim.
I consider myself reasonably good at soldering having constructed many circuits over the years but this is one job I would not attempt for the price of another board and a cal to Microsoft it just isn't worth the grief!

MC if my point form is wrong can you post back just like that what you did as you did them please?
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15 Oct 2012   #16
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Well MC looks like the mobo BIOS is cooked mate.

I would like just out of curiosity now to see in point form the chain of events as in

1. Built the machine with a Giga board the CPU HDD etc etc
2. Installed OS on this build.
3. Realised the CPU was wrong.
4. Changed the board and on it installed the original CPU RAM and that original HDD
5. Fired it up - it ran
6. Then tried to update the BIOS
7. Machine crashed.

Now at point 5. if the OP had asked Microsoft to re ID the mobo then things would be sweet? The problem comes at point 6 from trying to flash that BIOS?? In which case like someone else said unless you are particularly good at soldering the chances of recovering that board are slim.
I consider myself reasonably good at soldering having constructed many circuits over the years but this is one job I would not attempt for the price of another board and a cal to Microsoft it just isn't worth the grief!

MC if my point form is wrong can you post back just like that what you did as you did them please?
I am reading it like this,
1. Os was installed already on the old parts.
2. Bought gigabyte board and CPU and machine would get stuck at loading screen due to CPU & mobo incompatibility. (If the CPU wasn't supported it would error out during post)
3. Bought MSI board to work with new CPU
4. Windows gets stuck on the loading screen, same as with the gigabyte board.
5. Now the machine is not outputting video.

The initial problem from the get go was most likely just the IDE mode, he experienced the common issue when windows is installed on a sata drive in IDE mode and then trying to boot up with sata in ahci mode without enabling ahci mode in windows first.
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15 Oct 2012   #17
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yeah Zephyr I can see what you mean re the IDE and set up but I would have liked the original post to say something like
I replaced the board (brand and model) in my machine with a Gigabyte board and transferred the other gear over now realised the CPU was not compatable
Then bought the MSI board and stuck all the gear on that and now it will still not boot......

Now this still leaves the OS install tied to the board that was in the machine from the very start that the OS was originally installed on and that was subsequently replaced? Or was this board put back in the machine after the Gigabyte episode??

Therefore I still have difficulty in understanding is - is the MSI board THE original board or a brand new one are there in fact TWO MSI boards involved?!
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16 Oct 2012   #18
Mcshirtbubble

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yes, there is 2 MSI motherboard s involved.
The first which worked perfectly and im using now, and had all the OS and software put onto it.
The second is the one which has no video output or doesn't start up.
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16 Oct 2012   #19
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mcshirtbubble View Post
Yes, there is 2 MSI motherboard s involved.
The first which worked perfectly and im using now, and had all the OS and software put onto it.
The second is the one which has no video output or doesn't start up.
Got it Mac so the OS is then tied to that board you have in (the original one).

Well in that case maybe the second board is a no goer and perhaps a replacement job. Apart from say using the Giga with a processor it will accommodate that to me at least would be the only choice you have. In any event if the thing had just worked ok you would have eventually had to ask Microsoft for a change of boards.

I did this recently as I installed an OEM on a desktop refurbish and the board died so I reinstalled the OS onto a laptop - then contacted Microsoft explained the situation and they gave me instructions to follow and they let me activate the OS on the laptop which in essence is now the original board.

Now I suppose you have no test bench stuff you can set up to try out the second MSI board on? I mean as in hook it up to an old spare PSU the HDD (with the OS on it) that CPU and the rest of the gear - outside of the case if it still gets no video then looks like it is a rogue board mate.

I have to ask too why did you need to change the original board - for better specs?
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17 Oct 2012   #20
Mcshirtbubble

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

yes, i wanted to upgrade from LGA775 to AMD and I wanted 2 PCI slots
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