| Windows 7: RAM timings vs. Voltage, and ssd questions |
18 Nov 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Southern California |
RAM timings vs. Voltage, and ssd questions Well I ended up buying a new laptop, check specs.
It only has 4GB of RAM, and has some strange timings:
Now, since this laptop has an APU (CPU+GPU in one die) , the GPU can greatly benifit from faster RAM timings.
So shopping around on amazon, I found this: Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics Extreme Low Voltage 30nm SODIMM 8 Dual Channel Kit DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM MV-3T4G3D/US: Electronics
and Amazon.com: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory (CMSX8GX3M2A1600C9): Computers & Accessories
Now the Corsair has better timings, 9-9-9-24, but the Samsung has 11-11-11-28.
Also the Samsung is 1.35 volts and is made using a 30nm process.
So which one should I buy?
Also this laptop has a chip set that supports SATA 3 and is using AHCI, so any recommendations out there for a ssd, 256 gb would be preferred, also it has to be reliable as I do work with large video files,CAD , and some virtual machines. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion g7-1350dx OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 CPU AMD A6-3420M APU Memory 4.0 Gb DDR3 838 MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6520G Sound Card IDT HD Audio Screen Resolution 1900x 600 Hard Drives 500GB Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 |
19 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
That's normal. CPU-z only shows half of what you should expect because it looks at the ram's clock speed, not the DDR3 ram bank's clock speed (which is double that of the ram chips on it as DDR3 stands for "double data rate 3").
Double of 800 Mhz is 1600 mhz, which is the actual DDR3 speed the banks run at. And it is the speed expected from ram marked as PC 12800.
The difference between those rams linked is that the latter uses far less volts, thus less power and heat and longer battery life (theoretically anyway), and this comes at the price of slightly worse performance, as in the timings for ram banks of the same capacity, lower is better/faster.
Last edited by bobafetthotmail; 19 Nov 2012 at 09:48 AM..
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19 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I would use the ram with the lower volts. Lower volts equals less heat which is very important in a laptop. Presuming the cpu and motherboard will accept the ram. I don't believe you would ever notice the difference in ram speeds. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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19 Nov 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Regarding the SSD I would recommend this one: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256N/AM 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Notebook Upgrade Kit
But be on the lookout for sales which Newegg very often do - especially now with Black Friday coming up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
19 Nov 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
If you can find the SSD that whs has posted at that price jump on it. They won't be long before they are all grabbed up. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
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Windows 7 Firewall |
19 Nov 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 x64 x86 North Western Indianapolis |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear If you can find the SSD that whs has posted at that price jump on it. They won't be long before they are all grabbed up. Yep shows out of stock. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Bluethunder OS Windows 7 x64 x86 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1050T Motherboard ASUS M4A77T/USB3 (AM3) Memory G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 16gb Graphics Card Gigabyte Silent GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays LG L227WTG Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard IBM Mouse Logitech Laser LED PSU ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT 620W ATX12V SLI Case Rocketfish Full Tower Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus with push pull fans Hard Drives ST31000528AS ATA Device
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20 Nov 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Keep looking. It's been reported as a very good SSD. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
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